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A Different Idea of What *Integral* Practice MeansJordan said Jun 17, 2006, 9:02 AM: |
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Hey all, I”ve posted an essay that, perhaps, is worthy of reading. It focuses on a different meaning of what an *integral* practice is, different, that is, then where Wilber, Murphy, Leonard, and Walsh are pointing. It’s at: http://enlightenmentdotcom.zaadz.com/blog/2006/6/a_practice_thats_integral_to_your_life Enjoy, and let me know: what practice is integral to *your* life? |
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Re: A Different Idea of What *Integral* Practice MeansTraversing the Path said Jun 23, 2006, 11:41 AM: |
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Hi, I enjoy reading different perspectives on “Integral Practice” and it's application - it gives you additional ideas to possibly incorporate and reinforcement to continue. I think that the world of computing has given everyone the misconception that we can multi-task; however, the results of linear development does have positive results for daily performance on a holistic level. That said, I'm a procrastinator…lol…here's what I'm up to for ILP: Planning: The Practice: |
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Re: A Different Idea of What *Integral* Practice MeansJordan said Aug 30, 2006, 11:18 AM: |
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Nicely put: the risk is that we’ll be divided, and not really “get” anywhere (as if there were anywhere to get). And I like your notion of joy. Without it, why bother? And without it, you won’t continue the practice anyway. |
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Re: A Different Idea of What *Integral* Practice MeansTom Sidebottom said Jun 28, 2006, 8:27 PM: |
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Super post! I grabbed a copy of Wilber's new Integral Life Practice ITP DVD some monts ago, gave it a careful look, and did some thinking. Years ago an old friend suggested she was pursuing Aristotle's Life of Excellence by engaging the Aristotelian elements:
It's been about thirty years since she suggested those to me, and over time I've evolved my own 'Gang of Four'. So encountering the suggested practices in the ITP kit caused me to think through what I've been doing - and I decided mostly to stick with what I've been doing. (The one exception is that I've added Focused Intensity Training to my physical workout routines - it's been very helpful, indeed.) Your essay speaks to me about the need to do fully regardless of what you do. My old Zen Buddhist teacher said the same thing to me years ago when she reflected on listening to an elite athlete talk about his training. His attitude of mind - the Hows, as she put it - were exactly the same as someone sitting zazen. The physical practice was different, but that wasn't important. Now, for me, I need to keep in balance because I'm prone to what the ancients called enthusiasms. So my gang of four goes like this:
Back to integral practice for a moment: I found Wilber's essay in the most recent Thanks for your insightful essay! Tom |
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Re: A Different Idea of What *Integral* Practice MeansTom Sidebottom said Jun 29, 2006, 5:24 PM: |
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My previous post was cut off in the next to last paragraph. Here's the remainder: Back to integral practice for a moment: I found Wilber's essay in the most recent What Is Enlightenment very helpful when he discusses the difference between horizontal and vertical practice. A yogin or Buddhist master may have profound practice at a particular worldview - and yet be limited by that worldview. Wilber discusses the importance of vertical practice to move between worldviews. The Tibetan Buddhists have a similar notion when they describe Sustaining and Analytical meditation. Sustaining meditation works to maintain and to deepen practice at a particular level. Analytical meditation probes deeply. We need both. T |
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Re: A Different Idea of What *Integral* Practice MeansDrake said Jul 5, 2006, 6:54 AM: |
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I agree with you Tom! We have a tendency to over look the very critical difference between horizontal and vertical practices. Thank you for bringing up the Tibetan perspective on Stabilizing and Analytical meditations, I was unaware of the concepts. Wilber does a great job of making the distinction between vertical growth and horizontal unfolding. I think an Integral Practice must contain both. The Stabilizing practices work like Agape…they are reaching down and into, where as Analytical practices continue the Erotic drive upward to higher stages of consciousness. Namaste |
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Re: A Different Idea of What *Integral* Practice MeansTom Sidebottom said Jul 6, 2006, 7:45 PM: |
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I see the analytical meditation as providing access to vertical growth, exactly as you say. The stabilizing meditation, though, I see as providing increased breadth of understanding at a particular level of View - rather than reaching downward. The View (and here I'm using my translation of the German term Weltanschauung) is the complete world that one can apprehend and operate on within a particular way of viewing the world. Stabilizing meditation helps refine the View without moving it upward or downward. It increases its capacity without changing the viewpoint. Analytical meditation helps to move between levels of View. |
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