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Welcome...flowerchildatheart [no longer around] said Jul 4, 9:37 AM: |
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I've been meaning to extend a warm welcome to the newest members of the group, who joined on my invitation… |
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Re: Welcome...andrew said Jul 7, 8:49 PM: |
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ah valerie, you may live to regret my invite!lol but sure, the buddha gummy bear is the cutest one of all….(sorry dov)……… |
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Re: Welcome...Tharlam [no longer around] said Jul 7, 11:31 PM: |
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If one prostrates before a representation of the Buddha, one bows before a representation of the wisdom of the Buddha - the awakened mind, not the mere mortal who once upon a time realized it and expounded its Dharma (or Truth).
If an individual were to truly revere the representation unto itself, they would have sorely missed the point. |
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Re: Welcome...Nicole said Jul 9, 6:41 PM: |
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when it comes to religions, people are awfully good at missing the point… |
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Re: Welcome...SillyOldBear said Jul 9, 12:59 PM: |
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Hey! Buddha Gummy Bears be damned, I am Da Bear around these woods! And I am Mighty Cute - in fact I am Cute Incarnate! And I second, andrew's question: As far as I have understood, Buddhism doesn't revere a g-d or G-d, but is a path of right action and right thought - so how does that fit with the reverence for Buddha himself and the seeming worship of representations of Buddha. I get what Tharlam says “If an individual were to truly revere the representation unto itself, they would have sorely missed the point.” The 'problem' I see is the way those representations are treated, which has very little difference from f.i the veneration of Yeshu ben MIriam or Miriam, his mother in the Catholic Church. Belonging to a Path that is extremly adamantly negative in regards to any physical reality in regards to the Divine or the veneration of physical objects (including humans) as some sort of carrier of the Divine, I find this puzzling. Shalom, Dov
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Re: Welcome...andrew said Jul 9, 7:55 PM: |
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yeah, well, remind me to kick the crap out of those 2 guys if i ever meet them on the road!lol |
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Re: Welcome...SillyOldBear said Jul 10, 3:02 AM: |
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andrew - in the instance that you are not pulling my leg or trying to steal my Gummy Bears, this paragraph: ”Belonging to a Path that is extremly adamantly negative in regards to any physical reality in regards to the Divine or the veneration of physical objects (including humans) as some sort of carrier of the Divine, I find this puzzling” means the following: Since I belong to a spiritual Path that tells me that G-d has no physical manifestation whatsoever and that any veneration of physical objects either as G-d or representations of G-d, including human in form, is forbidden, I find the veneration and devotion given to statues of Buddha puzzling/incomprehensible. Shalom, Dov aka Da Gummy Bear
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Re: Welcome...Tely said Jul 9, 7:47 PM: |
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What's up with all this talk about Buddha Gummy Bears? Is there really such a thing? |
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Re: Welcome...andrew said Jul 9, 8:06 PM: |
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hi tely! lmao…….um, as dov can testify to i am a bit of an irreverent knucklehead! i've come to call all religion gummy bears notwithstanding wilber's conveyor belt and fowler's stages of faith ideas. |
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Re: Welcome...SillyOldBear said Jul 10, 2:05 AM: |
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Tely, :) (((hug))) Don't mind me and andrew and any Gummy Bears that might be flying around - andrew frequently tosses them about and he and I are in the habit of tossing Gummy Bears at each other whenever we meet. It's a form of complex greeting. andrew claims that there are no Gummy Bears, I claim that there are, and the only reason andrew can claim that there are no Gummy Bears is because he eats them when they hit him… :D peaceful hugs, Dov PS: as far as I know there is no such thing as a Buddha Gummy Bear, I think andrew made that up - perhaps because he was hungry :D
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Re: Welcome...Tely said Jul 10, 9:18 AM: |
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OK, gentlement (Dov and Andrew), I've got a great new business idea – Buddha Gummy Bears! You get first dibs at it, since it was your idea, albeit in jest. I'm already salivating and have my credit card in hand. And I'm thinking about what a great gag gift it would be, so in my imagination, I'm also ordering lots of little packets of Buddha Gummy Bears for my friends. Is there an entrepreneur amongst you? |
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Re: Welcome...Nicole said Jul 10, 3:35 PM: |
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now, who could resist that, potential client with card in hand, great business idea, possibility to make scads of money?… :) |
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Re: Welcome...SillyOldBear said Jul 10, 5:08 PM: |
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Behold! The Gummy Bear Buddha! [no offence intended, and if offence is taken I apologize]  |
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Re: Welcome...Tely said Jul 10, 7:40 PM: |
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Dov, this is fantastic! Where did you get this? |
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Re: Welcome...SillyOldBear said Jul 11, 1:12 AM: |
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Well, Tely, I found it in my Paintshop Pro 8 - just sitting there waiting for me last night :D - it attacked me mentally when I was watching Underworld with my wife, and insisted of being transfered from my PSP 8 to this thread…I had trouble though - I kept wanting to eat it… and I second the start of a Gummy Bear Thread - perhaps our Peaceful and Contemplating Leader would not mind such a thread…:D
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Re: Welcome...Tharlam [no longer around] said Jul 10, 1:03 AM: |
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On the subject of veneration and Buddha Shakyamuni:
What is venerated is the Buddha, not the Shakyamuni. On an ultimate level, 'tis the awakened mind that is venerated, not the man who realised it. Of course, there is a certain degree on the realative scale of “thanks - I would not have realised that quite as quickly if you hadn't pointed it out” but there is certainly not, at least not for me and the traditions and practices I am involved with, any Yeshu ben Miram style “by bowing low to this representation and the man it represents, he personally is going to benefit me in such and such a way…” |
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Re: Welcome...SillyOldBear said Jul 10, 1:56 AM: |
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Thank you, Tharlam! Both for the clarifying answer to my query, and for the patience with the Gummy Bear tossing. :D |
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Re: Welcome...andrew said Jul 10, 8:28 PM: |
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yeah, i'd like to thank tharlam too for being good natured about my irreverence……. |
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Re: Welcome...Asteri said Jul 10, 8:36 PM: |
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Thank you Val for the warm welcome and Hello everyone :))) |
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Re: Welcome...flowerchildatheart [no longer around] said Jul 12, 4:01 PM: |
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Andrew…I don't think I'm going to regret for a minute my invite to you!! |
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