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    <title>Gaia:     VISIONARIES ::: Art Design Tech Philos Create Inspire</title>
    <id>tag:gaia.com,2008,:Gaia</id>
    <link>http://groups.gaia.com/visionaries/discussions/feeds/pod/9555</link>
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    <pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:05:24 GMT</pubDate>
    <description>Gaia:     VISIONARIES ::: Art Design Tech Philos Create Inspire</description>
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      <title>call for submissions EV16 Peaceful Co-Creating</title>
      <author>http://libramoon.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator>libramoon</dc:creator>
      <guid>tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-481801</guid>
      <pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:05:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <link>http://groups.gaia.com/visionaries/conversations/view/481801</link>
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&lt;p&gt;      &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;Emerging Visions visionary art ezine &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;#15,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt; &lt;em&gt;&lt;span&gt;Shifting Perceptions&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span&gt;~ still awaits you&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;Shift&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;and all strict and sure&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;rearranged in light-swift display&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;hues of the every day&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;bending, twisting, flying&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;Leaping into play&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://emergingvisions.blogspot.com" target="_blank"&gt;http://emergingvisions.blogspot.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;share and enjoy as you scroll down to the &lt;span&gt;Submission Guidelines&lt;/span&gt; (below the Contributors&amp;#39; page)&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Then, Share your visions to commingle into a fine fruition of&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Peaceful Co-Creating - Emerging Visions visionary art ezine #16&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;send your submission&amp;nbsp;to&amp;nbsp;me&amp;nbsp;by early October&amp;nbsp;&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;have fun~&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;make it happen...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;a target="_blank"&gt;libramoon42@mindspring.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

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      <title>Re: ice rings </title>
      <author>http://greenbird.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator>greenbird</dc:creator>
      <guid>tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-463320</guid>
      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:31:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <link>http://groups.gaia.com/visionaries/conversations/view/403207#463320</link>
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&lt;p&gt;      Wow, Floyd. Yes, a zen photo. Love it! &lt;/p&gt;

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      <title>Hi. Just want to share.</title>
      <author>http://greenbird.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator>greenbird</dc:creator>
      <guid>tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-463141</guid>
      <pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 23:51:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <link>http://groups.gaia.com/visionaries/conversations/view/463141</link>
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&lt;p&gt;      Hi, I just wanted to share&amp;nbsp; photos of this sculpture that I just created. IT is the face of a fairy. Thanks, Greenbird. &lt;/p&gt;

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      <title>Happy Solstice EV#15 ~Shifting Perceptions emerges</title>
      <author>http://libramoon.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator>libramoon</dc:creator>
      <guid>tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-450546</guid>
      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 02:07:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <link>http://groups.gaia.com/visionaries/conversations/view/450546</link>
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&lt;p&gt;      &lt;span&gt;Emerging Visions visionary art ezine &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;#15,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt; &lt;em&gt;&lt;span&gt;Shifting Perceptions&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span&gt;~ emerges with great good tidings for&lt;span&gt; &lt;span&gt;Joyous Solstice&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and beyond&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;a href="http://emergingvisions.blogspot.com" target="_blank"&gt;http://emergingvisions.blogspot.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;Shift&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;and all strict and sure&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;rearranged in light-swift display&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;hues of the every day&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;bending, twisting, flying&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;Leaping into play&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;share and enjoy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

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      <title>Hey, Gaia Creators!</title>
      <author>http://Embosonian.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator>Katherine  Spiritual Adventurer</dc:creator>
      <guid>tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-425727</guid>
      <pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:15:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <link>http://groups.gaia.com/visionaries/conversations/view/425727</link>
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&lt;p&gt;      I just joined this group so I could be be a Gaia Visionary.&amp;nbsp; I&amp;#39;ve been an ordinary visionary for a couple of decades and have added some of my art to my profile in&amp;nbsp;my &amp;quot;photos&amp;quot; section.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When I&amp;#39;m creating, I go somewhere else. I get my &amp;quot;game face&amp;quot; on and forget time and committments and just create. I get in trouble for that sometimes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&amp;#39;ve been a painter for many years but just recently, I began painting on furniture.&amp;nbsp; I use an old used piece of furniture, sometimes one that&amp;#39;s all broken, and I fix it up and &amp;quot;repurpose&amp;quot; it. I use it as my canvas.&amp;nbsp; It&amp;#39;s a 3D canvas and I enjoy using the shape of the object to determine what I&amp;#39;m going to paint on it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, that&amp;#39;s me.&amp;nbsp; Basically. I look forward to seeing new works and engaging in new conversations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cheers!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Katherine &lt;/p&gt;

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      <title>Hello</title>
      <author>http://dancingacrossthecanvas.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator>Tonya</dc:creator>
      <guid>tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-416895</guid>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:16:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <link>http://groups.gaia.com/visionaries/conversations/view/416895</link>
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&lt;p&gt;      Hi Everyone! My name is Tonya and I am about to graduate with BFA in Studio Art (consentration in Painting) and a minor in dance. My ultimate goal is to organize arts events that bring together all of the arts and/or teach art at the college level. I am always looking for new and fun ideas! If you would like, you can check out some of my recent work at http://www.dancingacrossthecanvas.blogspot.com/ &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;:) &lt;/p&gt;

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      <title>Authors wanted</title>
      <author>http://jilljj.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator>jilljj</dc:creator>
      <guid>tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-414187</guid>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:12:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <link>http://groups.gaia.com/visionaries/conversations/view/414187</link>
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&lt;p&gt;      Wanted: books and authors.&lt;br /&gt;Posted on Feb 24th, 2009 by jilljj : just-being jilljj&lt;br /&gt;I&amp;#39;m building a community that makes for a good way to market your books.&amp;nbsp; I have a website from which I now sell my artwork, plus topics related to: spiritual, health, nature, &amp;amp; new age, etc....Author submissions being accepted.&lt;br /&gt;This is no risk for authors as I am not charging a fee to list you on my site, just a percentage if your book sells. The more authors and books, the more the more of you network and promote,the moreeasily search engines will find you, and the more books will sell......................&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The book storefront is at www.jilljj.com/ZenCart&lt;br /&gt;in it would be your ebooks: descriptions, titles, pics, prices, etc&#8230;&#8230;&lt;br /&gt;As for legitimacy, it is, and both parties would need to sign:&lt;br /&gt;the agreement which can be gotten at http://www.jilljj.com/ZenCart/author-agreement.pdf&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;my main site for your perusal is at www.jilljj.com&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, I worked for a while as a cost estimator at a college text book company and I know what a tiny pittance goes for author fees. Instead of 6 to 10%, what I propose here is that you get to keep is 70%. I personally have had a hard time finding a central location for books of this subject matter, which means we could have a niche! The benefit for me would also be increased traffic to my site and hopefully you authors let me read your works while we are at it. Of course this is something to which we both need to agree, so please take a look at the pdf listed above.&lt;br /&gt;Please email me at jilljjam@yahoo.com if you&#8217;d like to jump in or have ideas.&lt;br /&gt;Thanks&lt;br /&gt;Jill &lt;/p&gt;

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      <title>ice rings </title>
      <author>http://laughingfloyd.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator>floyd</dc:creator>
      <guid>tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-403207</guid>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 05:11:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <link>http://groups.gaia.com/visionaries/conversations/view/403207</link>
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&lt;p&gt;      sorta zen photo. taken last weekend at the toledo botanical gardens. &lt;/p&gt;

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      <title>whisps</title>
      <author>http://laughingfloyd.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator>floyd</dc:creator>
      <guid>tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-403204</guid>
      <pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 04:56:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <link>http://groups.gaia.com/visionaries/conversations/view/403204</link>
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&lt;p&gt;      picture taken this past weekend. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

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      <title>Hello</title>
      <author>http://laughingfloyd.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator>floyd</dc:creator>
      <guid>tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-400812</guid>
      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:33:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <link>http://groups.gaia.com/visionaries/conversations/view/400812</link>
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&lt;p&gt;      hi everyone! my name is ryan warner and just joined this group. i am a photographer, painter, illustrator, designer, and writer. i have a b.a. in visual communication and have just started to take the initial steps into trying to market my art work...mainly my photography. i was recently signed to the mac worthington gallery (&lt;a href="http://www.macworthington.com"&gt;www.macworthington.com&lt;/a&gt;) and will start showing there in the main gallery in march. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;i have joined this group for help, inspiration, to give inspiration, to&amp;nbsp; make friends, and to work and converse with other creative individuals. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

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      <title>Re: Welcome to New Members!</title>
      <author>http://humanbeinghumandoing.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
      <guid>tag:gaia.com,2008:Gaia-376498</guid>
      <pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 06:02:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <link>http://groups.gaia.com/visionaries/conversations/view/302650#376498</link>
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&lt;p&gt;      Hi everyone reading this.&amp;nbsp; I am new to GAIA and to this group.&amp;nbsp; I have been a member for almost a year but have never really gotten involved.&amp;nbsp; I saw the art group and thought I would fit in here.&amp;nbsp; I look forward to seeing what&amp;#39;s out here, I am primarily a paper collage artist.&amp;nbsp; When I figure it out I will post some photos of my work.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gotta go.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

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      <title>~sharing(secret)water~ ev13 has emerged</title>
      <author>http://libramoon.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator>libramoon</dc:creator>
      <guid>tag:gaia.com,2008:Gaia-359967</guid>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:45:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <link>http://groups.gaia.com/visionaries/conversations/view/359967</link>
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&lt;p&gt;      Raising our glasses in celebration!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Opening fluid connections, ~sharing(secret)water~&lt;br /&gt;Emerging Visions visionary art ezine issue #13 has emerged. &amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://emergingvisions.blogspot.com/" title="http://emergingvisions.blogspot.com"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;http://emergingvisions.blogspot.com&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Drink deeply.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;share and enjoy! &lt;/p&gt;

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      <title>Re: Symbols &amp; Fractals from Soul</title>
      <author>http://Netherlands.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator>Alluvja</dc:creator>
      <guid>tag:gaia.com,2008:Gaia-357593</guid>
      <pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:16:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <link>http://groups.gaia.com/visionaries/conversations/view/357463#357593</link>
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&lt;p&gt;      &lt;p&gt;Hi Adam,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Welcome to Gaia, hope you will find your way around. If you have any questions you can look under the help button (right top).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I visited your site. Some wonderful work you are creating.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;ll remember it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Blessings.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

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      <title>Symbols &amp; Fractals from Soul</title>
      <author>http://creatinggalaxies.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator>CreatingGalaxies</dc:creator>
      <guid>tag:gaia.com,2008:Gaia-357463</guid>
      <pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:14:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <link>http://groups.gaia.com/visionaries/conversations/view/357463</link>
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&lt;p&gt;      Hello Everyone,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would like to share the artwork that I do with all of you!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- I do intutitve readings in a unique visual way. They are expressed as either symbols or intricate fractals.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank-you,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Adam&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;www.creatinggalaxies.com&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

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      <title>Metaphysical manifesto</title>
      <author>http://Domus-ulixes.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator>Domus Ulixes</dc:creator>
      <guid>tag:gaia.com,2008:Gaia-351200</guid>
      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:34:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <link>http://groups.gaia.com/visionaries/conversations/view/351200</link>
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&lt;p&gt;      &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm" align="left"&gt;&lt;font face="Tahoma, sans-serif"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;Physicists, mostly, are realistic reductionist Copernicist mathematicists.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm" align="left"&gt;&lt;font face="Tahoma, sans-serif"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Realism is the prejudice that there is a universe out there, distinct from, but in communication with the physicist(1), and that understanding of this universe ought to be obtained by careful observation(2).&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm" align="left"&gt;&lt;font face="Tahoma, sans-serif"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;	Reductionism is the prejudice that in order to understand complicated thingsit helps to understand its simpler parts(3).&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm"&gt;&lt;font face="Tahoma, sans-serif"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Copernicism is the prejudice that the universe doesn&amp;rsquo;t care about the physicist&amp;rsquo;s tastes and preferences(4): the universe will keep going its own way as physicists fall for fads and fashions. In short, &lt;em&gt;you &lt;/em&gt;are neither the center, nor at the center, of the universe.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;   &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm" align="left"&gt;&lt;font face="Tahoma, sans-serif"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Mathematicism is the prejudice that we can describe and, with luck, predict phenomena using the rules of the mathematical game(5); and that the universe deigns to conform to the rules of human mathematics(6).&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm"&gt;&lt;font face="Tahoma, sans-serif"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;	All these prejudices may be wrong(7), but I will stick to them until they are &lt;em&gt;clearly &lt;/em&gt;wrong.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm"&gt;&lt;font face="Tahoma, sans-serif"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;By: Prof. Dr. R.H.P. Kleiss&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm"&gt;&lt;font face="Tahoma, sans-serif"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;From: &amp;#39;The physics of Spacetime&amp;#39; - R.H.P. Kleiss - 12-04-2006&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm"&gt;&lt;font face="Tahoma, sans-serif"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm"&gt;&lt;font face="Tahoma, sans-serif"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm"&gt;&lt;font face="Tahoma, sans-serif"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;Footnotes at text:&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm"&gt;&lt;font face="Tahoma, sans-serif"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;1: Denying this is solipsism: the solipsist cannot be proven wrong by logical argument, but is, perhaps for that very reason, not a nice person to be with.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm"&gt;&lt;font face="Tahoma, sans-serif"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;2: Denying this disqualifies one from doing physics (but not from doing mathematics); in extreme forms it can lead to revelationism and religious fundamentalism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm"&gt;&lt;font face="Tahoma, sans-serif"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;3: Do not be misled by fashionable slogans like &amp;lsquo;holism&amp;rsquo;, &amp;lsquo;complexity&amp;rsquo;, or &amp;lsquo;self-organization&amp;rsquo;. In the language we are using here, holims just states that the simplest part of a thing may happen to be the thing itself; complexity just states that simple things obeying simple rules may actually result in something pretty complicated-looking; and self-organization just states that the complicatedlooking result may actually be pretty robust. The Pseudo-Scientific New Ager will sit back and be impressed by the complicated-looking result; the scientist will be impressed by the simplicity of the parts and rules. The science of complexity is not the antithesis of reductionism, but an extreme case of it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm"&gt;&lt;font face="Tahoma, sans-serif"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;4: Do not be misled by fashionable slogans like &amp;rsquo;observer effect&amp;rsquo;,&amp;rsquo;collapse of the wavefunction&amp;rsquo;, or &amp;rsquo;the measurement problem&amp;rsquo;. Observer effect just states that the physicist, after all, is unavoidably part of the universe, and a separation between self and the universe is an idealization; collapse of the wavefunction just states that as the status of the self changes because of information gained&lt;br /&gt;from the universe, it should not come as a surprise that the status of the universe also changes; the measurement problem just states that at present it is not yet completely clear how these status changes are to be explained reductionistically.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm"&gt;&lt;font face="Tahoma, sans-serif"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;5: After centuries of brainwashing by physics&amp;rsquo; successes, it is extremely hard for us even to conceive of any other way of doing it.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm"&gt;&lt;font face="Tahoma, sans-serif"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;6: An undeserved but very fortunate condescension! This behaviour cannot be proven, but so far we have been succesful. On the other hand, it may mean that our mathematics has hit upon some fundamental actual properties of the world&amp;mdash;in that case, an alien thechnology-based civilization on a distant planet would probably do mathematics the same way.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm"&gt;&lt;font face="Tahoma, sans-serif"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;7: An open mind is a good thing, but a prejudice such as &amp;lsquo;do not jump out of this high window, because gravity always works&amp;rsquo; sees you safely through the day.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="margin-bottom: 0cm"&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

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      <title>Re: what is</title>
      <author>#</author>
      <dc:creator>Daydreamer</dc:creator>
      <guid>tag:gaia.com,2008:Gaia-342436</guid>
      <pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:51:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <link>http://groups.gaia.com/visionaries/conversations/view/50778#342436</link>
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&lt;p&gt;      This is an enlightening topic.&amp;nbsp; I am taking a philosophy class this semester and the questions that emerge are just amazing.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Slightly off the topic... &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Today we discussed &amp;quot;isms&amp;quot; and how to be trapped within an &amp;quot;ism&amp;quot; is to be unaware of your own thinking capabilities.&amp;nbsp; For example, if you follow passiv&lt;em&gt;ism&lt;/em&gt;, you lose yourself within the definition.&amp;nbsp; However, if you are just simply a paci&lt;em&gt;fist&lt;/em&gt;, you remain able to think for yourself and respect the opinions of others.&amp;nbsp; The &amp;quot;ism&amp;quot; strips one of the ability to make choices for themselves because there is a set of &amp;quot;rules&amp;quot; to be followed - a plan and a path already designed to follow.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am curious to know what everyone thinks of this &amp;quot;thought.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

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      <title>Re: They need gaians - HELP THEM PLEASE</title>
      <author>http://rinabee.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator>Phoenix</dc:creator>
      <guid>tag:gaia.com,2008:Gaia-330629</guid>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:37:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <link>http://groups.gaia.com/visionaries/conversations/view/330616#330629</link>
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&lt;p&gt;      I join Eli in the call for help, and invite all of you to join us by lighting candles and praying for the victims of this tragedy this Friday tomorrow at 8pm EST. &lt;br /&gt;Thank you for your concern!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Peace and Love&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Claudia &lt;/p&gt;

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      <author>http://EliRoberson.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator>Eli</dc:creator>
      <guid>tag:gaia.com,2008:Gaia-330616</guid>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:53:58 GMT</pubDate>
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&lt;p&gt;      &lt;img src="http://aura.gaia.com/photos/43/422079/large/koshi.jpg" alt="" width="367" height="500" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;PATNA:&amp;nbsp; The mighty Kosi river in north Bihar has broken its embankment to pick up a channel it had abandoned over 200 years ago, drowning towns, numerous villages and rendering over a million homeless. Many are reported to have died. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Officials here say it&amp;#39;s a catastrophe unlike annual floods. The brimming river has breached its embankment near the Bhimnagar barrage, close to the Nepal border, and is rushing down as a miles-wide stream to the Ganga, over almost 100km south. Unlike floods, this is not calm water but an angry torrent, making relief work very difficult. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Bihar CM Nitish Kumar said on Monday that &lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;over 2 million people have been affected by the Kosi.&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; Ranjeeta Ranjan, MP from Saharsa, one of the flood-hit districts, said that over a million have become homeless. She said that &lt;u&gt;over a hundred have died and she had personally seen bodies in the roiling waters. &lt;/u&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What&amp;#39;s alarming officials is that the 3km wide breach is growing by about 200 metres a day. The Bhimnagar barrage is just 12km away, and should the breach reach the barrage, huge inhabited areas of Supaul, Saharsa, Araria, Madhepura, Katihar and Purnea districts would be drowned, spelling an even bigger disaster. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Repair work on the breach has to be undertaken in Nepal, but when an Indian team reached there, it had to leave in the face of violent protests. Officials say full Central involvement in disaster management is essential - both to take up the issue with Nepal and for assistance in relief. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;More at &lt;a rel="nofollow" href="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Bihar_devastated_by_Kosi/articleshow/3405589.cms"&gt;http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Bihar_devastated_by_Kosi/articleshow/3405589.cms&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

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      <title>Drawing and photography</title>
      <author>http://smille.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator>Sysinsky</dc:creator>
      <guid>tag:gaia.com,2008:Gaia-327140</guid>
      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:35:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <link>http://groups.gaia.com/visionaries/conversations/view/327140</link>
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&lt;p&gt;      I love to draw, though i dont do it often, because for me to draw i need to be inspired by a picture or cartoon. As you can see i am not a perfect drawer but i think i am pretty good myself, as you can see in my profile picture [i drew that]. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I also like to take pictures. I always like to take pictures no matter how the day is. I think i have always like to do it but i didnt know it until i came to a broadcasting class, where you practically take pictures and videos everyday. Since then i always like to have a camera with me so i can take pictures any time i want. I even found a picture i took on the internet in google.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So i am glad i found this group in Gaia because i can express my art.  &lt;/p&gt;

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      <title>Hello Friends</title>
      <author>http://EliRoberson.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator>Eli</dc:creator>
      <guid>tag:gaia.com,2008:Gaia-324959</guid>
      <pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:45:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <link>http://groups.gaia.com/visionaries/conversations/view/324959</link>
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&lt;p&gt;      I am Eli.. a humble man... &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you are curious about me, please have a look at my profile, my photos, and my Blogs..perhaps you may find something common to share.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Love, peace, and friendship to all&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Eli &lt;/p&gt;

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