Re: book of john, map of unfoldment

well i dont hold too many illusions about the bible, a great curiosity yes but i would rather leave it be. Thanks for the book idea though. it is odd because i was reading a book on holiness by a Donald Nicholl who had a different perspective catholic religion, and actually quoted as much from other religous figures as he did from the bible or catholic figures, that kind of work inspires great respect in me, being one who believes in unifying thought.

Re: book of john, map of unfoldment

Have you read any Maurice Nicoll? He's a fascinating character. In my opinion the best of that rascal Gurdjieff's students.

The title of the book “The Mark” comes from the ancient aramaic word that yeshuah (if there was a yeshuah, and yeshuah isn't a code name for a semen smeared amanita muscaria mushroom, which John Allegro suggested) used in his parables, that we translated thru the aramaic and greek as the word “Sin”

The word yeshuah used for “Sin” is a technical term from archery, which means “missing the mark”, as in, missing the target you were shooting at with your arrow.

So, “The Mark” is the thing that humans aim for, that they miss when they commit sin.

Nicoll's thesis in those two books is that the Gospels represent an esoteric instruction set in the form of those unique stories we call the parables.

Esoteric instructions that later were rewritten, added to, and packaged as a religious document in the following centuries.

A sweet idea. Who knows how optimistic it is.

Robert Funk was a cool thinker too. He died recently. What was the name of his last famous book? Oj yeah - “Honest To Jesus” - he seperates out from the gospels the parts that we can be sure _weren't_ said by yeshuah, and then looks at the stuff that is left that might actually have been said by a personal yeshuah.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Funk

Re: book of john, map of unfoldment

i had a computer glitch and it erased my original post-reply so i will sum it up. both authors sound great im suprised that i havent heard of either, but i will keep my eye out. another critical examination of biblical issues that i found enlightening, the whole book by the way is great as far as i am concerned, is in Manly Hall's Secret teachings of all ages: http://sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/index.htm

there are three chapters near the end of the book specifically about christianity which provide a different explaination of biblical symbolism and origin. i especially like the one about the crucifiction which tells of many stories predating christianity that have the same symbolism all over the world. one is so close and obvious that it astounds me that people dont think more about it, krishna/christ, even the message is obviously similar.

also i uploaded a replica of that diagram i told you about, its nothing special and the notes that go with it are hiding from me but it is a kind of polar variation. through swinging pendulum arms different postions can be held while having the appearance of dualism there is a cloud of grey possiblities. i dont remember exactly what i was thinking about 7 or 8 years ago when i drew the original but this is what i remember of it. if i find the original i will let you know if you are still interested.
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