Verticality

Okay, here's the issue: Many discussion groups are horizontal, flat. That is, they facilitate dialogue, but where do they go? What are the real-world results that actually move society forward? How can we move from dialogue into verticality–development, progress in real-time, movement that has a higher purpose, goal, vision? How can one person spark an idea and turn it into a revolution – not after months of dialogue and searching, but now, today, this very moment? And what role does the social web play in that process? 

Re: Verticality

I think this is the problem right here:

 How can one person spark an idea…

Too many visionaries, too many people wanting to be sparks and catalysts, not enough people wanting to do the heavy lifting.  I include myself in this description.

Re: Verticality

Yes, the heavy lifting and responsibilities are integral criteria too.

Would love to participate for example in Dons Middle East initiative in documenting, communicating and catalyzing the whole process with all forms of viral meshworking, web 2.0 and even meshing the complex horizontal forms of Media communication with them.

Its not only about verticality -some spiral wizards even deny the central importance of it - but the skillful and complex integration of all approaches in real world problems outside the security of little integral circles and sanghas.

To build constellations of virtually hundreds of thousands of people -or more -on a global large scale which are moving into different edges….See the model of stratified Democracy…and as good example Dons presentation for the Worldbank in Afghanistan in 2001.

In  whatever constellation or circles or campaigns integral leadership is in high demand. See here Peter Merry `s blog on Zaadz. Peter is founder of Dutch Center of Human Emergence. He has written a beauitiful book on Evolutionary Leadership. Right now only in Dutch. Translation into English is in preparation.

Cheers,

 Albert

Re: Verticality

Thanks for the responses, guys. I'm afraid I didn't label this topic correctly, as it seems a more appropriate conversation for the SDi listerserv or pod. Would it be all right with you if I took it down? 

Re: Verticality

Hi Sam,

 its a complex thing. Right now we have not even one single theory which comprehends all the existing integral, evolutionary and proto integral approaches. The whole Nexus.

Web 2.0 , social networks, meshworking, Tetra meshes of all kind, Micro and Macro flows , documentary filmmakaing, mastering new and old media, Online/Offline integration etc.etc. is an emerging new continent where everybody can contribute his or her own Genius.

Why not aligning web 2.0 with other already existing elements of P2P communication?

or what exactly is your intention here?

Rainy greetings from Teutonia,

Albert