The Secret and a problem about it

Hi there! This is my first post and I wanted to discuss something with you tahat bothered me.

Well I am a true believer on human mind but watching these two documantries makes me wonder some things.

It is true that we can change our addictions.Science and real human experince showed us that we can change this.People healing wthout kemothreapy and going “cold turkey” -if yo will- with only the power of mind has great examples.

But these are things changing  in OURSELVES with OUR mind and brain.

I think What the Bleep really focuses on human mind reordering but The Secret focuses on more material things like money or wealth.

Lets say you always wanted a Ford Mustang - who did not :) - , it is true  and I believe that if a person puts his mind on it, and acts -that's the most important thing- for it, like saving money,checking out places for a good price not just visualising the car you are driving in the end this people working too hard for it in some time he will get it.

It is also acceptable for money and love, the most important  thing here not just visualising but acting and if you ask me I will say it has an importance like 90% acting,%10 visualising.

They are all concepts which can happen and they are in somewhat small scale.But when it comes world change I found a problem.

We must remember it is an material world,I know we are trying to change it but knowing it is the first step to change it by asking the question why it is like that.

With questioning the status quo we start to realize the powers which made it powerful.As an example

The emperalist money based companies rule the world Why?
        because there is no another choice for some of them for now Why
             because good people always acts late Why
                  because they believe in people's mind and ability and so on.

The Secret says we must not focus on the problem and THE solution for itself and but A  solution and how to make this solution better.

Hale Dwoskin says “If you are against war be pro peace. If you are against hunger be pro people having more than enough to eat. If you are against a particular politician be pro his opponent.”

But  I would say
-There is no one place and one reason.There are hundreds of different wars becouse of millions different reasons.Focus on the reasons and try to solve all of them be pro peace but be aginst the reason.

-If they have enough to eat it is not hunger.What will a place which real hunger strike if we only focus on enough fed people.
              
              -Is it a Social Darwinist idea? Does it say if they are in total hunger let them die
               so the others survive?
              
               -And by the way Does it say just think about yourself and wish for yourself, if the
                others didn't wish for it it is their problem because it says :
              “You are not here to change the world as you like to be.You are here the create the
                world around you that you choose.While you would allow the world others choose
                to be to exist also.” Wow it really sounded like an egocentric leave them as they are
                 they deserve it talk, to me isn't it? I hope not.

-In politics you must have a view.Because it is the poltics that define every aspect of our lifes.It is the idea that you look from, to the world. The Secret,What the Bleep are just tools for it.I don't say pick a idea,you can have a unified different view.But,The Secret says work for AN opponent not for THE opponent.We must work for the idea that our society most needs which they lack and we must work for it.

I hope I could work some of your neurocells to make new  bindings :)  And I am open to all kinds of ideas so bring it on! :b

                                                                                                                                 It's time to get wise                                                                                                                                                 G.G

Re: The Secret and a problem about it

Personaly, the only problem I could possibly see with The Secret is the lack of belief on the vizualizer's part.  The documentary also says that how it works doesn't matter, just that it does work.  Don't make the visualizng process more complicated than it is.  If you need to focus on a reason, focus on th one basic reason.  In my opinion, all wars come down to the fact that someone is not content.  So, instead of focusing on many different specific reasons, focus on one.

I think that if you tried to visualize something for someone else it might work, but it definatly wouldn't be a strong if the person visualized it themselves.  I can't hope that my boyfriend gets over his sickness, but it's his body that has to fight the virus.  It doesn't have to be your resposibility to make someone else's life better.  Your soul's purpose is to be happy.

I hope that you don't think I'm trying to argue with you. It sounded like you wanted some answers, so I put my two cents out on the table.

Re: The Secret and a problem about it

It looks to me like you're over complicating things.  Wars happen because of unconscious, narcissistic egos with an agenda.  There may be millions of reasons why things are the way they are in the world, but there is a solution, and it lies within every human being.  If we are going to change the world we have to change ourselves.  Change within equals change without.. and we can do that by applying Intent.

We live in a quantum field of pure potential, so what we say comes back to us, and what we put a lot of energy on comes back even faster.  So we must be the solution.  If we focus on the myriad of unconscious agendas on the planet then we get more of that.  If, on the other hand we focus on world peace and the healing of every human heart and mind, we can achieve that as well. 

I've been consciously creating my reality since I was in my early 20s, and I can tell you first hand that it works magnificently.  I've created homes, cars, money, girlfriends, jobs.. you name it.  I also changed the direction of a tornado that was headed for Springfield MO one summer day and it did a perfect 90 degree turn west just like I told it to at the exact moment that I intended it!  Along with  two friends of mine I also changed the weather over a 100 square mile area for an entire year in southwestern Colorado.  Everyone else in the entire southwest U.S. was experiencing severe drought, but the town of Pagosa Springs and the San Juan National Forest had above normal rain and snowfall for the full 12 months that we were Intending.  Then once we dropped our intention, they went back to drought conditions.

On the other side of the coin, when my wife died in 1994 I went through severe depression and PTSD and created a living hell for myself.  So we create whether we want to or not.  That's just the way things are.  We're energetic beings living in an enormous energy field.. so how can we not impact it?  The answer is that we can and do all the time.

But we also need to pay attention to what's going on in the world and work to change it in whatever way we can.  I don't advocate hiding our heads in the sand or being off in some escapist la la land for one second.  We are God living in the Body of God.. and we have a responsibility to make the world conscious and peaceful.  Part of what we're doing here is   learning how to use the power that's ours by Divine ordination.  Jesus tried to teach us that when he said if we had the faith of a mustard seed we could tell the mountain to go to the sea.. but we haven't paid much attention.. yet.

So it becomes a matter of applying loving intent and visualizing the world as we want it to be.. and being persistent.. but at the same time allowing Divine Wisdom to do a re-direct if necessary.  Who are we to say that God might not have a nice clean planet waiting for us right now and want leave this one to the narcissistic egos?  I don't have a clue.. but I do know I'm going to live in peace and Love and if I hold my intent that WILL come about.
peace/love
John

Re: The Secret and a problem about it

I totally agree with Jojn.  Our reality is plastic. I too began with SOM and it changed my life by changing my thinking,  my perception of reality.  Later I began with Ramtha and he has greatly enlarged my vision and my understanding about self love and the Kingdom of Heaven within all people and how to use it to do the greater things.—— What I would like to add is that the consciousness of war-lord,  tyrant appears to be alive and well in most people.  It is that consciousness that we seek to let go of.  It is not enough to ask that those who are the leaders in the world stop creating wars and being tyrants.  The Self needs to address the issue within the Self.  This begins in personal Life.  As long as the consciousness of the people wants power over another and seeks to destroy by thought,  word or deed we will continue this consiousness.  Those who intimidate, value the dollar over human life,  have lack of respect for those in their homes,  their world we cannot expect this consciousness to transend into a greater one.  The work to be done is cloer at hand than Iraq,  Africa,  Egypt or Iran.  Our leaders and theirs will never end the reign of terror,  the oppression of women until each one of us,  as individuals end it in personal life.  Peace