Gaia: Co-Creating Reality ~ What Else is Possible? What the Bleep - What the Bleep Do We Know!? - Creating an Enlightened Civilization

Re: Creating an Enlightened Civilization - The "how" of TheSecret

http://Domus-ulixes.gaia.com — Fri, 13 Apr 2007 23:29:47 GMT

I know it is a bit late to tell this (about a year or so), But any 'wavemaker' or 'technology' used to 'delete' energy of the negative conditioning from your energyfield. I sbullshit in many ways:

- Sure one can make waves, and one can disperse waves , however these need to be carefully placed. For this to work, you need a Cat-scan like of equepment for the theorie behind the technology to hold any constituanty whatsoever.

- You cannot delete energy, you can only adapt it, as in the case of dispersion, it disperses to heat.

- 'Negative conditioning' Is something personal, therefore not equal to anyone. If indeed such energy fields would exist. My negative energy field, will be totally different then for instance yours. As we both handle different definitions of the meaning of the word 'negative' and most of all, have different working brains.

All in all, it is easier, to actually learn about the 'how' as in the "how" 's of you. As it basicly consists out of scientifically proven concepts, meaning: you can reproduce it.
Don't spend money on stupid silly things like 'negative energy deleters' They only work in a placebo kind of fashion. And hell, that is available everywhere for free...

Re: Re 2 : Creating an Enlightened Civilization--impossible?

http://kymmi.gaia.com — Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:36:15 GMT

Knowledge, Wisdom and Truth is extremely important however if there wasn't compassion in that equation i strongly think every mathematical formula would be wrong!

I had the priviledge of meeting some of the greatest professors and a some really intelligent dudes..... but without compassion the information wasn't taugh as quickly and was hard to grasp. They were arragonant and no one took their time to reach out to the class.
Compassion and wisdom goes hand n hand. It's the only way we're going to solve for X.

Re: Re 2 : Creating an Enlightened Civilization--impossible?

http://seek2know.gaia.com — Sun, 19 Nov 2006 16:23:19 GMT

My new Dream of a Butterfly workshop that I am envisioning for the year 2007 is focused on creating an Enlightened Society (which is also the Shambhala Vision).

Three things that an Enlightened Society must love and cherish are: Knowledge, Wisdom and Truth

And each of them can be understood at many levels, the highest being the Universal and non-dual perspective.

So ours would be based on a process of understanding how realities are created and how best to evolve consciously so we can collectively co-create realities that works for the highest good of both the individual and the society.

We need to unlearn many things before we can begin learning from a fresh and empty mind. This is difficult if we have not looked within our own social conditionings and our sense of self that is very much socially constructed.

Our calling is to be authentic and genuine by honoring the sacred within each other and all life forms. Walking every step mindfully and lovingly is our final journey back to home - our own self-enlightened peaceful nature.

Peace & Joy.
Mita

Re: What is Happiness?

http://farland.gaia.com — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 00:04:03 GMT

Sometimes I am sad and I am so content to be in that state of sadness that it makes me happy. So It seems to me not an emotional state but something more. An overflowing from the loving souce that Wendy wrote. There was a great review in The New Yorker about two books on Happiness. I am not an internet whiz to access them now but if you go to the Summer's New Yorkers and look for Happiness it is well worth the read.

Re: Re 2 : Creating an Enlightened Civilization--impossible?

http://hermitage.gaia.com — Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:06:32 GMT

This is a fascinating discussion. This sentence is so accurate - "Ours will not be a plan of resistance. It will be the lifting up of a vision into manifestation through the minds of many." (Chapter 6) And it makes sense, doesn't it? Resisting what we don't know can be a barrier, and it's a form of fear. And some fears are valid, too. So, I guess in creating an enlightened society, the fears are the barriers to it. And maybe this sentence means once the fears are risen above, something new will emerge in the collective? Very interesting, Moni

Re: What is Happiness?

http://rexdxiv.gaia.com — Wed, 20 Sep 2006 14:11:40 GMT

Here is how I see it...

Happiness is the other side of Sadness, it is transitory, and it can be looked as the peak which implies a valley. Bliss on the other hand is realizing or being aware of or accepting or allowing all that there is to be as it is. Creation needs a dualistic attitude - that is a view consisting of the space or container of all things to exist and the desire or the idea that is the seed of all that comes into existence. All that exists, as pertaining to happiness, has a life span. By definition it has to move or dance, so it awakes and it falls into sleep, or it is born and it has to die. Therefore happiness is one aspect or face of the dance of creation. The other aspect is Unhappiness or Sorrow. As one can laugh one can also cry. Both are the realities of the dance of creation. Once they are both allowed to exist in our awareness we experience Bliss which also can be said it is the Peace that is beyond understanding. Also, Bliss can be understood as being in God, Big Mind, or Love.

And all this is also just a view...

Re: Re 2 : Creating an Enlightened Civilization--impossible?

Sat, 16 Sep 2006 06:16:49 GMT

"Ours will not be a plan of resistance. It will be the lifting up of a vision into manifestation through the minds of many." (Chapter 6)

Handbook for the New Paradigm

Re: Re 2 : Creating an Enlightened Civilization--impossible?

http://nightlightbrightlight.gaia.com — Fri, 15 Sep 2006 17:24:27 GMT

Maybe and enlightened civilizatioin already exists....we just have to remember that we are enlightened.....just as most of the people on this site have done. We are perfectly enlightened and part of the force, we just have to realize it. The realization of self (thus realization of everything you are part of) is the highest form of personal enlightenment I know of. Imagine-- that since everything is connected, then enlightenment of the self makes enlightenment of the society entirely possible. If I can do something, if several people can do something, then this organism we are all part of called civilization can do it also. We have already scientifically proven collective conciousness....the trick is getting it to work toward enlightenment and that is exactly what zaadz is doing in my oppinion. Several thousand enlightened people sharing and taking these things in....adding to the collective conciousness what goes on here. If it continues to grow...then eventually it will spread faster thus creating enlightened civilization.
There have been studies on the collective conciousness done with monkies, and ancient human civilization proves these theories also....I wont go into all of it here but it is something I suggest any one look up.
peace and love to you all!
a

Re: Re 2 : Creating an Enlightened Civilization--impossible?

http://ClarityQuest.gaia.com — Fri, 15 Sep 2006 17:11:59 GMT

Thanks Dragon Dancer,

Well said & I love your metaphors :-)

Out of chaos comes comes clarity... embrace chaos as it arises... not focus on it... pay attention instead to what can come of it. Ask "what else is possible?", not "what is wrong?

Re: Re 2 : Creating an Enlightened Civilization--impossible?

http://dancingdragon.gaia.com — Fri, 15 Sep 2006 16:19:05 GMT

Man-oh-man. Gee Wilikers this is an interesting thread. Your head does get a bit 'full up" from taking in stuff and it then becomes an interesting challenge to share something coherent and relevant.

Alex..."but I'm inclined not to focus on the word chaos… something just don't feel right but I'm not yet able to place a finger on what exactly this is…"

Oh please do focus on chaos. Chaos (ala physics) is necessary for change. Major change needs major chaos. Ya' gotta break eggs to make an omelet

Think of it as a huge though/energy field that can be used to manifest great things. If you want light just plug your cord into the socket and you get light. The more of us that plug our lights into this energy the more light we create for the world.

If you are no plugging in your light to use this energy then who is going to use this energy and for what purpose? What kind of world will there be.

If enough people believe that it is possible to to Create an Enlightened Civilization...then it is.

So jump on board.

Re: Re 2 : Creating an Enlightened Civilization--impossible?

http://kinglee7777.gaia.com — Sun, 10 Sep 2006 03:37:54 GMT

Hi' Yosyama and dear all,

I incline to see your points that the traditional belief and practising system of life of the global society must be shifted to self critics and self impose post -motem analysis in the wake of the happenings of the 20th and 21st centuries ,where men unable to be at peace with themselves but continue to destroy the planet uncomparable in all times of the mankind history combined ,.there is where we are today ,as men continue to cling to self center to serve their egoistic false  pride and belief system , that further widen the rift and gap between  mandkind of the same kind ,are we not ?(hope not too heavy )

The vision to create an Enlightened Civilization lies in the self imposed mission of individual endeavour and passion as mentioned of the enlightened individual groups ,and the ability and capacity to connect and interact with these groups of like minded of our societal in a free will and loose form(uninstitutionalised ) ,of self imposed and regulated ,and initiate to turn them into movements of societal dimension both local and global by adopting local wise practises and global perspective and linkages ,similiar to vision of zaadzster and strive beyond where we are today .

This is not a movement of change  of impossibity ,as we are already initaiting a little step our selves(aren't we zaadzster?), what we require is far-sighted and wise leadership of diffrent levels and a die hard self adopted value firing up infinity inside your hearts(do we ?) , inspiring out of peace ,compassion, and above all the transcendental wisdom of selflessness and eternity ,in the context of interdependency of a globalised reality and envisaged enlightened civilization in the making .

Amitabha

king

p/s : I think we do not have to cut thru and differentiate between the enlightened and the so called unenlightened groups ,just provide the platfrom and continue to spread the words connect and inspire to attract the like mind as enlightment  find its own levels with individuals and reflow ;For is a life long mission for individuals and individual groups to find erternal meaning to reshape our combined  life and entity .

Re: Re 2 : Creating an Enlightened Civilization

http://monkeys.gaia.com — Fri, 08 Sep 2006 17:42:32 GMT

:))

Re: Re 2 : Creating an Enlightened Civilization

Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:24:49 GMT

Giving it some sleep over , i can say that to merge the two, the inner and the outer which are in fact the same

a shift of stage in one is possible after one looses his faith and the order and set of values by which he lives and looses his emotional connectedness and flow with himself and others and consequently you drop down entirely out - and down on which lays underneath..

Same perhaps goes to the entire society, if the whole of humanity is to shift when a massive and deep-through realization of the falseness in our life, beliefs and system must take place before the entire social structure falls and breaks down without remedy on which lays underneath. and becomes that

nothing less - but nothing more :)

Re: Re 2 : Creating an Enlightened Civilization

http://whitewolf.gaia.com — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:35:11 GMT

Now that is interesting. I read The Disappearing Universe and that was the concept put forth by Gary Rendon. We have never left the source, we are there asleep and we are dreaming this reality. It is ego that is causing us to stay separated. When we begin to recognize ego and to forgive all those we perceive as having wronged us, then we begin to awaken. It is an interesting book.

Re: Re 2 : Creating an Enlightened Civilization

Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:48:25 GMT

Dear Michael thank you for reminding me this question -a $64,000 one too :)

the answer is pretty simple; it can not be done by any of us

and all the ways, both traditional and most recent are no more than wishful thinking

- - now let me go see that drawing - -

YY

Re: Re 2 : Creating an Enlightened Civilization

http://my-head.gaia.com — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:04:34 GMT

How would we then combine our true purpose of existence to re-merge with the Infinite source, with the Creating an Enlightened Civilization ? HOW WOULD WE INDEED ! - that must be the $64,000 question for us all at zaadz ...

but in view of your home page quotation from Ken Wilber's piece do WE not have a driving passion and responsibility to do so !

ps I very much like your Pen Drawing 31 - but I would wouldn't I

Re: Happiness / Purpose of Life

http://my-head.gaia.com — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:46:43 GMT

"Forcing life to go down a particular path often leads to dissatisfaction and failure. The solution is detachment - letting go of specific outcomes - playing full out, not worrying or caring about how things turn out. The surest way to detach from one outcome is to reattach yourself to a more empowering outcome: serving others, replacing a bad habit with a good one, or focusing on the present." ~ Stephen Shapiro

INDEED SO ! or as Zhuang Zi said more succinctly -

FLOW with whatever may happen and let your mind be free - stay centred by accepting whatever you are doing - THIS is the ULTIMATE

On the subject of happiness I can only concur with HH The 14th Dalai Lama - and why am I so often the only one who's read the book in question ?

Re: What is Happiness?

http://WendyGirl.gaia.com — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:47:06 GMT

I think happiness is when we are in the 'flow' of life. In the flow of abundance. When we allow ourselves to both give and receive from our loving source. Some thoughts on this:

Giving From Fear

If we ‘give to get', we never get the gift in giving. We continue to try getting our needs met in a round about way. We do not really ask for what we want, do not express how we feel, and often do not feel we deserve either one. Imagining that we can never get more than we give, we never truly receive the abundance that is always flowing to us.

When we give to others to ‘keep from losing', we will hold back giving to those who give to us. When there is no threat of losing the person who is already giving to us, we do not focus on giving to them. We only give when we are afraid we may lose. We protect ourselves from feeling the fear of loss by hoarding and holding back. When others give to us, we think there is an ulterior motive since we cannot connect to the gift in giving.

When we do not give to others, we close our heart. When we do not receive from others, we take away their chance to open their hearts. Both create expectations that we then attach to giving.

Examples of giving from fear:

If I spend time with you, you will give me money.

If I help you with your problems, you will help me with mine.

If I watch your kids, you will watch mine.

If I lose weight and look beautiful for you, you will not leave me.

If I give you advice, you will tell me how wonderful I am.

Receiving from fear:

If I accept this gift from you, I will owe you something.

If I thank you for your compliment, I will look conceited.

If I let you do it for me and you do it wrong, I will look bad.

If we do what I want, then I will have to do what you want.

Giving & Receiving From Love

When we give from love, there is no expectation of a response from another. Our giving is simply something that feels good to do. It increases our sense of connection to the whole of life. Giving from love has an unconditional quality to it. It comes with the intention to provide healing to another - from a place of compassion where we see ourselves in another and are moved to help. It is a remembering, on some level, that we are one.

It feels good to give. When we allow others to give to us, they get to feel the ‘good feelings' that come from giving too. That is one reason it is critical that we let others give to us. To let others give to us we must receive what they offer. To push it away, or say we are not worthy of what they offer, closes down the flow. The cycle is only completed when we allow the energy to come into us. Notice your experience when someone gives to you. Do you say ‘thank you' and feel gratitude for what they have to offer? Do you make excuses as to why you do not deserve it? Do you experience a sense of isolation and a need to do it all yourself? When you do not allow yourself to receive from others, the universe cannot reach you. Often, the universe gives you what you need in the form of other people. Life does not have to be hard. If you allow the energy of others to support you, an increased feeling of connection to the whole is available.

Try it today. Only for today, notice when you have a chance to give to others. Let another car go in front of you, say thank you to the grocery clerk, notice the new hairdo on your neighbor. Notice when others give to you as well. Do you receive their offering? What does it feel like when you push their gift away? What about when you let it in with gratitude?

Re: Re 2 : Creating an Enlightened Civilization

Wed, 02 Aug 2006 16:15:17 GMT

How would we then combine our true purpose of existence to re-merge with the Infinite source, with the Creating an Enlightened Civilization ?

Re: Re 2 : Creating an Enlightened Civilization

http://TheYogi.gaia.com — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:34:27 GMT

The true purpose of our existance is to re-merge with the Infinite source...