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Re: The Secret is Partial

http://seekerfinder.gaia.com — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:11:02 GMT

Perhaps those who are successful at manifesting that which they desire in life haven't so much abandoned their competitive egocentric drive but they simply have mastered balancing that competitive egocentric drive with their inner spiritual self.

When I first started becoming aware of this way of being I felt that ego was unnecessary and even not desired at all. But I've learned through my growth that the ego is essential to us human beings and that the problem with ego is when we allow it to dictate all that we think/do/say and are. I suppose I think of the ego self as what sets us apart from the rest of the collective consciousness so in order to integrate ourselves into that collective consciousness and still retain our uniqueness we must allow our ego self to exist and perhaps even to thrive. But if we are to allow our ego selves to exist or thrive we also must balance that with the more spiritual inner self.

As for being competitive I also used to think that competition was a bad thing that only separated us but if we compete in a healthy way that comes not only from our ego but also from our inner spiritual self I don't see where there is any harm in doing so.

Blessings,
Cheryl

Re: The Secret is Partial

http://medeadbugger.gaia.com — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:00:18 GMT

Find this most interesting.
Being a devils advocate may i enquire as the the nature of "faith" as a comodity, it's strength and impact in keeping with their cudos and artistry relative to faith as a phenomenal instrument to be weilded.

i may be misguided but feel those successfull in this sphere of activity have, to some degree abandoned their competitive ego centric drive

Perhaps our inter personal interfacing ,metaphysicly, at a non physical level, requires our using the facility of the collective consciousness, which, as a gate keeper, might not permit that which would not further the scenario we are driving our selves to.

Re: The Secret is Partial

http://medeadbugger.gaia.com — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:33:59 GMT

The previous statement refers to Wholeogram Man, of July 14-06
Pleased to be here among you all, fellow Gaia'ns.

Re: The Secret is Partial

http://medeadbugger.gaia.com — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:21:10 GMT

Yes. Thank You.

This holds eligance with my sober understanding of the situation.
It sounds like the most wonderfull understanding of a very fundamental requirement for us to achieve our own potential.

Many Thanks.

Re: The Secret is Partial

http://hermitage.gaia.com — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:30:32 GMT

Hello everyone, saw the Secret for the first time in parts months ago, and wasn't really of the frame of mind to take it in. Then I saw it again recently, and I found it to be an interesting, kind of a food for thought concept.

I didn't think it would solve the problems of the universe, and some things I thought it left out. I think as another poster pointed out, there are billions of secrets, and probably, this is a good primer to be introduced into that reality.

However, I think there is a danger in only accepting one reality, which can result in disconnection from all that is. In taking in the whole, taking what truly resonates to self, in other words, not just saying, "I love it" when it isn't my truth. (Truth for me comes from many different teachers, and also a good teacher will direct you to ultimately think for yourself.)

That would be saying there was only one truth to be had, and there being so many religions that satisfy different people's needs, and so many different types of people, there cannot be just one movie that answers everything. So thanks to the Secret for introducing a concept to the masses, but it's important to say that it may only be a launch pad for the greater adventure and paradoxes that present in life.

The world is full of rich resources that might resonate to people at different times, and many, many teachers.

Blessings, Moni - Nature Hermit

Re: The Secret is Partial

http://seekerfinder.gaia.com — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:03:58 GMT

It's my honest opinion that the film the Secret is both partial and whole. I say this because what the Secret is depends absolutely positively on our perception of it and on what we choose to make it. In fact I believe this is one thing the Secret shares with us quite clearly....that our lives are exactly what we perceive them to be...what we put into them and what we get out of them.

If everything, including the Secret, is whole to you then that is your reality and for you in all situations and under all conditions everything will be whole. If the Secret is only partial to you then that is your reality and for you all situations and under all conditions the Secret will be partial. It, as well as life, is only whole if we perceive it to be and is only partial if we perceive it to be.

I have found that no one person can dictate what 'reality' is going to be for another...not unless the other person agrees.

In closing I suppose my opinion is that the Secret and all the other enlightening information out there today is exactly what we percieve it to be. If we choose to allow the possibility of what the Secret and other sources of information about evolving ourselves to a higher life into our lives then we will realize what we find for ourselves in the information...if we choose to reject part or all of the Secret and other sources of information then we are eliminating those possibilities from our existence and will continue to live our lives by default never really feeling like we have control over anything in our lives.

Blessings,
Cheryl

Re: The Secret is Partial

http://TickleAwakeningSport.gaia.com — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 14:22:31 GMT

There can never be One secret which is Complete in the entire Universe or Cosmos. There are many Billions of Secrets, since they are all Known to someone or the other, they are no more secrets either.
"A Secret between two is like God's secret" How do they keep it a Secret always? till one takes it to the grave.....no wait!!!!, till both of them take it to their graves. When a secret is shared with a Third (Especially with a message:- Don't share this with anyone else) It very quickly becomes EVERYBODY's SECRET.
Peace, love n Light
Jagan Ramamoorthy
Los angeles

Re: The Secret is Partial

http://alexbaranosky.gaia.com — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 08:31:38 GMT

Everything in life is either partial or everything in life is whole.

I personally believe everything is whole.

Therefore to me The Secret is whole.

Re: The Secret is Partial

Wed, 18 Jul 2007 07:30:56 GMT

Hi Cheryl,
I know what you mean about feeling like you were different. When I was in high school I read "Stranger in a Strange Land" and felt like it was written about me.. like someone had dropped me on this planet and forgot to tell me why they had dropped me into hell and left me here.

That sense or feeling though comes from a disassociation with our core nature or true inner being. When we grow up in homes where there's a lot of trauma our minds create identities.. little energetic holograms.. based on our belief about ourselves. It's the equavilent of having a dark sullen moon orbiting a home planet, and you're actually the planet but you think you're the moon.

That's where the beauty of the LOA comes in as far as I'm concerned. I can re-create John in any way that I want to. If I want to play guitar better.. I envision myself doing that and the universe begins to bring it about (I've actually done this and it works incredibly well). In the same way, if I want to be free of an addiction or be more social or successful or whatever.. I visualize that happening and let the universe take care of the details and it will.

I read a story a few years ago that I believe is a stunning example of this: A famous Russian pianist was locked up in the old Soviet Union as a dissedent for nine or ten years. Right after he was released he was invited to the US to play for the sitting President (who if I recall correctly was Nixon). After an absolutely flawless performance someone asked how he managed to play like a virtuoso when he hadn't played a piano in all those years. His reply? I played every single day.. I would imagine myself at the piano and play every piece that I knew.

I had an amazing encounter the other day along these lines. I'd been asking God why my life was going like it has been recently because pretty much nothing that I'd been intending was coming about. So I'm driving down the road and suddenly had a powerful intuitive hit to pull into this burrito place and have dinner. So I walk in the door and as I'm standing there getting ready to order I nearly get hit by a guy in a wheelchair.. who looked very much to me like he didn't need to be in that chair. Then the guy in behind the counter looked at me and started telling me about how amazing this guy was who had almost crashed his chair into my leg. "Oh?" I replied.. "Yeah man.. he was in a bad accident less than two months ago and was totally paralyzed with a crushed C3 and now he can walk and has full use of every part of his body again! He's got the most amazing attitude.. you wouldn't believe it.. he always believes everything is going to work out and it does!!"

Actually I did believe it.. and I also knew exactly what God was telling me. I hadn't been holding that energetic reality for John. I'd been allowing myself to go into a little victim waa-waa off and on, so I was getting back exactly what I'd been putting out. But here was another Morris Goodman "miracle man" that God sent right to me so I could get the message I needed. Ask and ye shall receive. The moral of this story.. the LOA is always active whether we like it or not and it always bringing back to us exactly what we put out whether we like it or not. So in that light it becomes rather important to pay attention.
John

Re: The Secret is Partial

http://shiningstar.gaia.com — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:10:08 GMT

John, I too would like to be in this new pod of yours. Patricia

Re: The Secret is Partial

http://seekerfinder.gaia.com — Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:11:13 GMT

Hi John,

It was 'What the Bleep Do We Know?' that also helped me see things in a way that really went a long way helping me understand why I had done so many things the way I had done them. I had already started thinking along the same lines that 'What the Bleep?' shares and when I saw the film my very first reaction was to exclaim, "Then I'm not crazy!!!!" The addiction stuff immediately made sense to me and I could look back on my life and see many things I attracted to my experience through the simple process of needing my 'trauma' fix... Then the film 'The Secret' came and helped put a few other things into perspective and provided me some new tools to use to help me create the life I so much deserve to have.

I would LOVE, LOVE, LOVE to participate in your pod when it's ready. Sometimes all we need to understand our own power is to be exposed to others who have realized their own power who have been in the same or similar experiences that we have created for ourselves. I remember I used to be one of those who was exposed to the information but felt that it couldn't apply to me because I was different and/or had suffered more than the other person but I've learned over the years that if one person can do a thing, then so can another...

Blessings,
Cheryl

Re: The Secret is Partial

http://shiningstar.gaia.com — Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:57:47 GMT

The best book that I have ever read that addresses Karma is "A Beginners Guide To Creating Reality" by Ramtha. I just began reading it but already have covered a lot of material about Karma that has added to my knowledge. Joy To All

Re: The Secret is Partial

Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:29:54 GMT

Focusing on what you want is the only way to get what you want. Focusing does not mean just wishing, hoping and praying...it also means acting, thinking, and moving towards whatever you want. Ultimately, that's what the LOA are teaching. Sure you can use this "attitude" adjustment to hope for riches or material things...and you can use your new found positive outlook to help with depression, but the core change is you. You have changed the way you perceive the world.....you have changed yourself. If you look at life with a more positive attitude, you will naturally be more content because you are not trying to blame someone or something for all the bad stuff that happens to you. It is what it is and you move on.....easier said than done, but if you do all you can to be positive, the negative will not seem so imposing. It will still be there, but it's your decision as to what you are going to focus on...+ or - . Its always up to you...
peace..
T

Re: The Secret is Partial

http://TickleAwakeningSport.gaia.com — Sun, 15 Jul 2007 16:45:46 GMT

Hi Again,
as I was explaining to you
About the application of "Power of or Law of attraction"
we have to discern very well, what "Groups or elements of energies that have fuelled the very existence of something we are seeing from a distance and WANT it to come into our realities very fast"
if we fail to understand the number of fallacies are hidden behind what we see, then we will SURELY, bring it into manifestation as well. When we first focus on something as distant from us --say like a distant Twister" it all appears very GOOD, very adaptable, when it twirls around and comes closer and closer, we then Suddenly realise that we are attracting many elements of the same "Being" which would run away from once we come to know of its Power to hit us from close range. By the time we realize this, it would have already hit us.
For example, take Bill Gates and his wealth--Sixty Billion dollars worth. How many of you think, that allof his wealth is accumulated by only FAIR play? How many innocents would have been trampled by him or a Donald Trump on the way to acquisition ofwealth of such magnitude? There is a LOT of cruelty involved in such wealth acquisition, so would I want part of such cruelty to Flow in with the money he might offer me, if I--happen to be the next Software geek, who can actually breach any security systems built by Microsoft professionals?
NO Thanks--- I would always watch how I earn my wealth, whether it is "Good health being wealth" or a Comfortable money system, with not much deficit on the negative side of things, being wealth.
Same way, if I attract to myself a lot of "Pleasure" Would I not attract a lot of pain as well? because that is the natural "Flip side of pleasure"
It is very easy to say 'We attract our illnesses to ourselves" Say that to a young kid who was just born a Spastic? or an Autistic kid or one with Cerebral palsy as a Congenital condition?"
What rubbish. We are indeed governed by Karmic forces till we are attached to the "Physical realms" how many Wealthy people have escaped the laws of Karma?
Gautama Buddha has rightly put forth this in his teachings "All sufferings take root from Attachment--mainly attachment to the material/ physical dimension"
The law of Karma is also not the Supreme most, yet it is very easy to follow "cause and Effect" some say.
I suggest, Karma has Six elements:
a) PAst karma, which we have already incurred.
b) Current karma which we have Continuous incurrance
c) Future Karma which we "Might" incur.
d) Karma as Action/ Deed which has a definite conclusion in a flowing reality.
e) Akarma or inaction in such a flow
f) Vikarma --Opposite action to a flow which would seem Natural/ Social or civilized.
then above these six would be the Sanchita or a Sum total of all Actions done in all tenses and all Cycles.

How many can escape these laws by just using the Law of Attraction?
Sounds very easy, but try it, this is where "Failures come from" and then a later stage of Dejection.
I am not pessimistic about this kind of teachings, I like Esther Hicks, I like Abraham hicks, I love Gary Zukav, I love Caroline Myss as well. But, is there any ONE view that can ever hold all truths for the entire Universe?
Much Love,
Namaste

Jagan Ramamoorthy
PS: Even in the Treatise "Soundarya Lahari" Aachaarya Shankara has suggested to us, "The 64 forms of Tantra are Mystical art forms of healing powers and their methods to use and acquire the four "Purushaarthaas" or the votaries to human pleasure/ happiness, yet not all of these Mystical powers can ever provide us with LIBERATION for the Spirit"
JR

Re: The Secret is Partial

http://TickleAwakeningSport.gaia.com — Sun, 15 Jul 2007 13:38:45 GMT

Hi Guys, once again.
RAin, I am trying to write as a continuation to what you just wrote: But, I must tell you all upfront that I am not here to either Endorse what one DVD/ Book has to say about "Life changing episodes" nor Dis-endorse its power over Millions of Believers.
I am only trying to add my two cents here.

What I understand from this movie and how people have interpreted it, I find it very odd that where people only "See, talk about or apply" the Law of Attraction as the central most theme of their lives, they fail to understand there is a NATURAL opposite called the Law of Repulsion and another above these two called "Universal/ or Cosmic Flow" as well at play.

It is almost like denial of the presence of Dark, and only talking about Light, when we can easily embrce the two and understand that "One cannot exist without the presence of the other"
I will elaborate on this more later, after my Violin lessons.
Namaste.
Jagan Ramamoorthy

Re: The Secret is Partial

Sun, 15 Jul 2007 07:45:17 GMT

Hi Cheryl,
I finally came to understand the process of addiction and depression when I saw the movie "What the Bleep Do We Know?". Suddenly that brought it all together for me. I grew up in a war zone at home, so I got wired up in my body/mind with all sorts of neural pathways and chemicals that were a long ways from endorphins and serotonin.. and as you said.. when our body is hooked on whatever it gets hooked on it needs to create more to sustain itself.

It's a fascinating process.. and one that's pretty far off topic here.. but I wanted to say that I received a wonderful email from a very sweet lady who encouraged me to help, so I've started a new pod on healing addiction and depression. I haven't posted to it yet, but I would welcome your input once i get it up and running.
John

Re: The Secret is Partial

http://seekerfinder.gaia.com — Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:32:59 GMT

Hi John,
To your post I say YES, YES AND YES!!!!

Oh yes hope is not the same as knowledge. It is not hope that fuels our ability to create...it is the knowledge that it is ours.

As for depression I love what you say to Dave. Dave I sincerely hope that Johns words inspire you because I have done it, John has done it and there must be many others who have left depression behind for ever in exchange for living in the now with joy (if you want a great teacher to help you with learning to live in the now with joy watch the Dog Whisperer on National Geographic Channel...even if you don't have a dog! This would be a good week to see him as he is on every night all week long.).

It is understood that depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain. I feel that this medical information is a part of the reason why so many people are simply managing their depression with drugs...because they think it is a medical issue that they have no control over. Anti-depressants are a useful tool but are not a cure. If those who simply accept that it's a chemical imbalance that they are powerless to change were to research the internal workings of the brain as an organ they would find that this chemical imbalance typically is created by ourselves. I know very little but I know enough to know that it has to do with our hypothalamus, endorphins, peptides and receptors. In other words what we choose to think about triggers the release of specific chemicals that are created in the hypothalamus. The chemical that is released is made specifically for that emotion/thought that we are indulging in at the moment. Those chemicals (peptides) go out into the brain searching for receptors...when they hook up is when we get the emotional/physical response to what we are feeling. If we choose to feel 'down' then the peptides released are ones who will facilitate our getting a 'high' from those feelings (even if we hate feeling that way we still get a 'high' from it and this is why we become 'addicted' to misery and such things in our lives). Funny thing is that when we have put enough of a specific peptide (chemical) out there those picky little receptors begin to refuse to accept any other peptide except for that kind. So you see the more you feel badly...the more you are going to feel badly and it simply becomes a downward spiral. So yes we do have a chemical imbalance in our brains when we are depressed but it is one we have created and it is well within our control to change by what we decide to focus on and think about and feel. The awesome news is that it is NEVER too late to change ourselves and therefore change the chemical being released in our brains.

Sorry for the rudimentary explanation but I'm just going on what little I know.

Blessings,
Cheryl

Re: The Secret is Partial

Wed, 11 Jul 2007 06:59:37 GMT

Rain.. you can't just hope that things will come true. That's not the way the universe works. You have to be certain that they will because it's the law. Jesus said that if we had the faith of a mustard seed that we could tell a mountain to go from where it is and into the sea. He was talking about the LOA. He understood it better than anyone else had prior, and than most have since.

Dave.. it will work to use the LOA to heal depression. We get more of what we focus on.. so if you focus on happiness you get happiness.. if you focus on depression.. you get more depression. I know.. I had clinical depression and PTSD for quite a long time. I didn't consciously use the LOA to change myself, but did it unconsciously. I was determined to change, so by putting that conscious intent out into the universe I was "led" to books and teachers that taught me about the mind/ego and suppressed emotion that Eckhart Tolle (The Power of Now) calls the pain-body. Those were what was causing my depression, and by shifting my conscoiusness and watching my thinking and allowing myself to heal old pain, they, and it, was eventually healed. Life for me is now mostly wonderful.. with an occasional day of whatever.. but if and when anything comes up I just allow it and it passes and I'm back to wonderful again.
John

Re: The Secret is Partial

http://shiningstar.gaia.com — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 20:11:54 GMT

The reference made by Darren that the Bible is "mystical" inpired me to post. I have a new book just out on the 16th titled Jesus or Jehovah. What I found that caused me to create the book is that I had a lifetime of hearing what the preachers taught about Jesus so set out to see for myself why the Bible is so contradictory. What I discovered is that if read, as it is written, all makes perfectly good sense. The Old Testament is about Jehovah and he is not shy about saying what he wants or about getting it. The New testament from Acts to Revelations is clear. It is only the first 4 books of the new Testament that creates the confusion. Here I found the words of Jehovah coming out of the mouth of Jesus. Here two characters, two stories, two ways of being are interwoven together to make them appear as one. This created the confusion desired to keep the people busy trying to find out what Jesus taught instead of learning to live as he lived. It produced the saying that one can prove anything by quoting the Bible because it appers so contradictory. This is probably why Jesus gave so many teachings about not mixing the old with the new because he knew it would have to happen. My book Jesus or Jehovah allows the reader to separate the two and clarify the teachings of Jesus that until now have remained a mystery. Amazon.com is carrying it. It is a wonderful teaching and I hope everyone will read it.

Re: The Secret is Partial

http://Raindream.gaia.com — Sun, 01 Jul 2007 18:52:58 GMT

Hi guys,
I am actually reading the book 'The secret' and have not seen the movie yet.
Actually, I do believe that what we have to do is to focus on things that we want, but I do not think that 'the Secret' is the answer for everything.

To be honest, now I am focussing on the things I want, and I really hope it comes true :)

What if all of us, focus on a peacefull world, with no hunger, no sickness, chances for everybody... wouldn't that be great?
Unfortunately, the Universe won't grant us that wish, don't you think? As everything should be balanced: black & white, good & evil, happiness & pain,...