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Re: Supermatrix Theory

http://Domus-ulixes.gaia.com — Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:20:52 GMT

Yes of course we are all some form of lab-rats! And when we do not comply to gods bureaucracy we will all be killed and thrown away! (please tell me you denoted the Irony in this.)

Re: Supermatrix Theory

http://Domus-ulixes.gaia.com — Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:18:35 GMT

Please don't make boundries to your own reality. It let's you see the true truth, it isn't determenistic.
For:
One heap of sand, plus another heap of sand, is still, one heap of sand...
1 + 1 = 1

Think about it. ;)

Re: Supermatrix Theory

http://helenski.gaia.com — Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:41:57 GMT

Do you mean we are like experiements in gods lab?

I can kind of see this.

Re: Supermatrix Theory

http://blauerstern.gaia.com — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 22:23:02 GMT

I can relate very well with the idea of this universe beeing an illusion. But this axion doesn't lead anywhere, since we not answer the question, hows illusion it is.
I want to menschend one thing first, about what the sienentist discovered. I hope my description makes sense. When they observed the universe, black holes particulary, they found out, that the amount of information within and around a black hole is definend by the surface not the volume of it. That means that the universe is actually a flat picture, projected as a hologram on a fast surface.
But one more time, how's illusion is it? How many mind's are there? You can only know about something, that is a part of you, otherwise you could not possibly know about and percive off it. So, there is the sum off all there is, the source of all, the autor of all, we may call It God. And there seemed to be you, as a separeted body indentitiy. How wourld dream a dream of separation like this, where everyhing dies, what do you thing, you or God?

Re: Supermatrix Theory

http://myrevolution.gaia.com — Wed, 04 Oct 2006 15:06:25 GMT

After reading many of these posts, i felt compeled to respond and expound my views and obsevations. I believe that there are many people out there who find thiese ideas fascinasting, for whatever reason. And who can blame them, wouldn't it be nice to believe that this world is an illusion? But let's take a step back and re-examine what it is we call reality. Reality is the form of all things real. Got that: REAL. What do we know is real? We know that the physical world is real, correct? Well at least most of us do. In our longings for a more interesting and exciting reality, many of us create realities according to our own wants and wishes. This is folly. We cannot escape the fact that 1+1=2. Or that a man cannot drive a car through a brick wall without major damage to the car and probably himself. These are the facts. No matter how hard we try, we will never be able to make 1+1 equals 4. This just does not happen in reality. We must be able to open our eyes to the world around us, and realise that we cannot run away from the world that is right in front of our face. I believe that once humanity begins to do this, all the secrets of the universe will be ours for the taking. For once we begin to see the world as it truly is, then we will be able to unlock the secret to our existence. There very well may be some sort of universal computer, that exists in the ether of existence. This is a very plausible explanation, when taking into consideration all that we know about the world today. But to go on believeing that what we see, touch, taste, hear and smell is all an illusion, is preposterous. Instead of approaching the subject with the mindset of: "Let's see if we can prove reality wrong", we should approach it with an attitude of acceptance and curiosity, a scientific method of explaning reality, and in turn, being better able to control it. If we approach the subject of the Supermatrix Theory with an open mind about the reality of the situation, with the motive of trying to understand this particular aspect of our existence, instead of trying to prove that the world we live in is simply a computer generated "virtual world", then we may begin to find that this "intergalactic computer" that controls the universe, is simply our own concsiousness. People tend to underestimate the power and purpose of our concsiousness. We all seem to want to hand control over to some "higher power" or creator. To believe that we are not held responsible for our own realities.

I hope that everyone, one day will open their eyes and see for the first time, that we are the "higher power", that we are the creators of this amazing existence that we all share. That, to me, is the most exciting thing in the world, to understand that we hold the power of the universe in our hands.

And therein lies the true Matrix. The world around us has been veiled from our eyes for millenia. We have been told that reality is merely an illusion, that the true existence lies in some higher realm, untouchable by us as mortals. But all the time we were believeing that we were living in a dream, the real world flew right past our eyes, unseen.

Re: Supermatrix Theory

http://seek2know.gaia.com — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 05:56:52 GMT

I am attempting to present another view here.

Since the Supermatrix theory? seems to be attempting an explanation of Nature of Reality inspired by the movie Matrix (see religious/philosophical and other perspectives on the movie) may be we can approach it this way.

Lets say there is a matrix (or lot of them in our planet) build by artificial intelligence (which parallels human and extra-terrestrial intelligence working) with Nature's quantum field and holographic universe ( or Nature's Supermatrix). So our earth reality and our human body-mind is product of both artificial (Not primordial) and Natural (primordial/ spiritual/ non-physical) intelligence. So there is both natural evolution of life and also artificial genetic manipulation and social/psychological engineering to some extent.

What i took from the matrix movie is how mass mind perception, attitude and beliefs have always been influenced and imprisoned by those who wanted to remain in power. People of knowledge (spiritual or scientific) have always been feared and persecuted by official power groups because knowledge of unknown may upset the staus quo. A lot of human history, political economy and social evolution have been influenced or even engineered by elite power groups/families, through subtle mind manipulation, so most people in fact live within a false mind-matrix of social consciousness without being aware of it. Unbiased pursuit of Knowledge and truth seeks to unplugg human beings from the false matrix, so the innate power/ creative potential within each human beings can be properly engaged towards conscious evolution and upliftment of entire human condition.

Re: Supermatrix Theory

http://IamwhoIam.gaia.com — Mon, 14 Aug 2006 22:57:07 GMT

Hey I just like your writing and really only wanted to see your response.

Re: Supermatrix Theory

http://lchris.gaia.com — Mon, 14 Aug 2006 22:46:26 GMT

I hope I'm not a buzz kill. But I don't think you can call this a theory. Thereis no theory you juts renamed god, as far as I can tell. If I'm wrong please show me, but it juts seems like you've said “Ive got a theory about the universe, it's called supermatrix theory” but there's no theory. It's a title without a body. >> I have to agree, at least from what I've read so far. I think there's truth to it, just as the movie, The Matrix makes serious metaphors about our reality. The writers of that series didn't just make it up, they had some background in metaphysics...you can see the Platonic (matrix=the cave?) and Gnostic influences. David Icke and others have recently expressed the idea that we really are living in something akin to the Matrix. So I'm not disagreeing -just wondering how this is a new theory or yours.

Re: Supermatrix Theory

http://Domus-ulixes.gaia.com — Mon, 14 Aug 2006 20:54:40 GMT

Yes, I know what a theory is, but if you look closely to your (probably dictionary entrance) you see why the 'Spuermatrix Theory' isn't one of them;

A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.

The branch of a science or art consisting of its explanatory statements, accepted principles, and methods of analysis, as opposed to practice: a fine musician who had never studied theory.

A set of theorems that constitute a systematic view of a branch of mathematics.

Abstract reasoning; speculation: a decision based on experience rather than theory.

A belief or principle that guides action or assists comprehension or judgment: staked out the house on the theory that criminals usually return to the scene of the crime.

An assumption based on limited information or knowledge; a conjecture

A theory is there to explain specific parts of something. Therefore A theory is never in danger, of having to explain its own existence.
The problem with the Supermatrix is, that it does not explain, a group of facts or a branch of anything. It claims to have the explenation for litteraly everything, as everything is what we know of in reality. (this includes dreams ghosts, everything that was ever thought of, in our current place ungiven in time)
The supermatrix is a "Theory of everthing" Which is basicly not a theory, but a name to explane everything, even though it carries the word 'theory'. We have arived at the cross-over between philosophy and physics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_everything_(philosophy) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Theory_of_Everything
The Theory of everything, is in physics a attempt to unify the problems that occur when comparing relativity to quantum events. (One of the things that shedded light on this was the famous Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen paradox http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPR_paradox )
A genuine Theory for everything has several physical and philosophical problems to deal with. One might be able of solving either all the physical problems mathematically, or all the philosophical problems deductively, they would never be able of be joined together.
This is not a pessimistic look, on the contrary. This is a very fair and quantum-mechanical look at life and everything. It would be unnatural too explain eveything, for you would lose the curiosity in questions that are already answered. besides, both relativity and quantum mechanics make it very clear, that there is not 1 thing that can explain multiple events excactly at the same time. That, we know for sure, is not part of our reality.

Re: Supermatrix Theory

http://IamwhoIam.gaia.com — Mon, 14 Aug 2006 20:25:42 GMT

Domus note in bold

Theory

A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.
The branch of a science or art consisting of its explanatory statements, accepted principles, and methods of analysis, as opposed to practice: a fine musician who had never studied theory.
A set of theorems that constitute a systematic view of a branch of mathematics.
Abstract reasoning; speculation: a decision based on experience rather than theory.
A belief or principle that guides action or assists comprehension or judgment: staked out the house on the theory that criminals usually return to the scene of the crime.
An assumption based on limited information or knowledge; a conjecture.

Re: Supermatrix Theory

Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:45:59 GMT

Let me suggest two endorsements to the Supermatrix Theory

the first is The Evolution of Theories.
If we compare the earliest theories on record to the latest and look at the pace in which humanity replace the old with the new, we can be certain that soon and beyond any doubt we shall live in an entirely different world; one which only very few of us can foresee.

The second is The Beauty of Complex Theories
Partially the reason why we love and believe in Complex Theories is because in the event of revelation and then in the sufficient and reliable sustainability, a theory is sheer bliss and in it one can sense the genius, mysterious and beauty of our reflecting consciousness.

If one ever understood any foundational law in physics or in math, like falling in love you can not stop waiting and you hate to decline.

One sky is just enough for most people while some are enjoying the seven’s sky.

Re: Supermatrix Theory

http://gravitylove.gaia.com — Thu, 10 Aug 2006 02:58:53 GMT

The super-matrix construct sounds great, and very plausible!

It's a shame that it has to be called a theory. It would be better to simply allow yourself to believe in certain possibilities like supermatrix, without having the scientific pressure of a theory. This type of belief in non-measurable possibilities is the basis for most religions.

Perhaps we will discover and measure supermatrix. Then what? What made supermatrix?

My point is not that supermatrix isn't possible, my point is that the unknowable is unknowable.

Respect,

Gravity

Re: Supermatrix Theory

http://gravitylove.gaia.com — Thu, 10 Aug 2006 02:39:07 GMT

Thanks. I'll take your advice to catch up on some background information that I may have missed. My apologies.

Respect,

Gravity

Re: Supermatrix Theory

http://Domus-ulixes.gaia.com — Wed, 09 Aug 2006 14:43:10 GMT

Exactly!

Re: Supermatrix Theory

Wed, 09 Aug 2006 13:04:47 GMT

Re: Supermatrix Theory

http://Domus-ulixes.gaia.com — Sun, 06 Aug 2006 15:24:11 GMT

So it's a bit like a mathematical dimension?

Re: Supermatrix Theory

http://tantranand.gaia.com — Sun, 06 Aug 2006 14:39:18 GMT

Not sure what you mean by "predicted by a instability."

The basic idea behind decoherence is that it is a process by which the multiverse splits into different possibilities. The different possibilities never interact again. A set of possibilities can stay coherent. For example, right now, if you're reading this, you (presumaby) don't see your monitor existing in three places - to the right and to the left of where you currently see it. Those possibilities have decohered away. But, the possibilities can stay coherent as well allowing us to perform quantum mechanical experiments where we cannot (easily) give a clear cut mechanical explanation of certain physical processes - as in, which hole did the electron go through?

So, in decoherence, the appearance of a quasi-classical world (quasi because certain possibilities stay coherent in it) is due to a physical process in which possibilities separate from each other and not due to a process in which the possible becomes actual via wavefunction collapse.

Re: Supermatrix Theory

http://Domus-ulixes.gaia.com — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:07:25 GMT

No, I couldn't agree more. You should enjoy the world as is. It is beautiful already and the best to look at, as we do every day.
But that is the fun part of this branch of science. We don't know how it is going to end, and frankly I don't think it will be something of one theory. That is also why its not a very popular branch of science, It is too much infinity, too little determenisme.

Re: Supermatrix Theory

http://Domus-ulixes.gaia.com — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:00:17 GMT

So a wavefunction reduction, would in essence be predicted by a instablity, which predicts a set of possibilities? Isn't that somewhat the same, but then in different name? (i Haven't checked your source yet).

Re: Supermatrix Theory

http://1969.gaia.com — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:57:21 GMT

it sounds to me like this is all about god, and you like the word supermatrix.

but i hear that once you start talking about it, you move farther and farther from what it is. so many names for god, what's all that about? i tell ya. i once met a bunch of jokers who would sit around and make this noise: hyyyuuuuuuuuuuu, claiming that there was no god before god, just the sound, and that god came after.

it's all so much fun, though, i guess, burning the brain up, thinking up all the new faces of god. didn't somebody even have a god that had thousands of faces to try and cover everybodies idea. wait, maybe his name was Supermate Ricks, spaaawwwwwning the idea of the...well...i won't say it.

just foolin, sunny