Creating an Enlightened Civilization

Thanks Alexchua for inviting me to join.

 This blog is right up my alley as well. I loved WTB and just saw the Secret a couple of weeks ago. I am an Avatar Master, and when WTB came out it was such an affirmation that all the work we all have been doing on ourselves and assisting others, is working. Yeah !!!! The world is becoming more enlightened each moment and it's up to each of us to keep our attention focused on just that. That's how we create the circumstances we'd prefer in each of our lives and on the planet.

In the Secret, they talk about the law of attraction and how that's exactly what's taking place every single minute of every single day, in every one of our lives and our cocreation on this planet. We may not realize it or want to admit it, but we are creating all the conditions in our life. As Dan Millman (a fellow Avatar), says, put your attention on what you'd like to see. The Secret brings up that additional aspect that you have to deliberately create the feelings that you have already achieved it. So make sure you are not in wanting something to be so, feel like it is already so.

If anyone would like more info on how to make that easier, you can go to the Avatar web site www.avatarepc.com  and download some free mini-courses, or write me and I'll be glad to be of assistance.

Peace and Love to all of you, Susan

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I just wanted to say that I like the title of this post “Creating an Enlightened Civilization”. It makes me think of my early days studying metaphyscis and the possibilities of life beyond our “reality” constraints. 

When I was young, 18 or 19, I read The Celestine Prophecey. That book changed my perspective on this world from being one of black and white to a whole rainbow of colors. I for the first time came to accept my role in this universe and the true nature of my being. In this and the books that followed, James Redfield talked of an upcoming spiritual revolution around the millenium. How exciting was that!? I was thinking of a sweeping wave coming through and re-wiring everyone's brains! LOL!

When the new millenium came and went and it seemed no Brains were re-wired… I was a bit dissapointed. But now I am starting to realize that there is a revolution coming through. It is one of our own creation. WE ARE THE REVOLUTION! That is what the Enlightened Civilization is born of… the creators.

Anyway, thanks for that bit of inspiration.

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The Nine Insights from The Celestial Prophecy by James Redfield

“The Emergence of a fuller spiritual awareness on planet Earth occurring only because of individuals like you, who step back and decide life really is more mysterious than any of us thought, and who then break through the habits of skepticism and denial… to find their own mission and their own intuitive way of uplifting the World.” ~ The Celestine Prophecy

The First Insight: A Critical Mass — Coincidences That Shape Our Lives — Answering the Question When and How
A new spiritual awakening is occurring in human culture, an awakening brought about by a critical mass of individuals who experience their lives as a spiritual unfolding, a journey in which we are led forward by mysterious coincidences.

We are discovering again that we live in a deeply mysterious world, full of sudden coincidences and synchronistic encounters that seem destined.
 
The Second Insight: The Longer Now — Expanding the Historical Context — Delineating the First Insight
The Awareness that our perception of mysterious life coincidences is a significant historical occurrence. This awakening to life coincidences represents the creation of a new, more complete worldview, opening us up to the real purpose of human life on this planet and the real nature of our Universe.

As more of us awaken to this mystery, we will create a completely new worldview - redefining the universe as energetic and sacred.
 
The Third Insight: A Matter of Energy — The Relationship Between Mind and Energy — Answering the Question What
Our New View of the Universe as energy dynamic. We humans can project our energy by focusing our attention in the desired direction (“where attention goes, energy flows”), influencing other energy systems and increasing the pace of coincidences in our lives.

We will discover that everything around us, all matter, consists of and stems from a divine energy that we are beginning to see and understand.
 
The Fourth Insight: The Struggle for Power — Competing for Energy — Answering the Question Why
The Awareness that humans have often cut themselves off from an inner connection with divine energy. To gain energy we tend to manipulate or force others to give us attention and thus energy.

From this perspective, we can see that humans have always felt insecure and disconnected from this sacred source, and have tried to take energy by dominating each other. This struggle is responsible for all human conflict.
 
The Fifth Insight: Message of the Mystics — Altered States of Consciousness — Elucidating the Fourth Insight
The Experience of inner connection with divine energy. A sense of lightness and the constant sensation of love are measures of this connection.
 
The only solution is to cultivate a personal reconnection with the divine, a mystical transformation that fills us with unlimited energy and love, extends our perception of beauty, and lifts us into a Higher-Self Awareness.
 
The Sixth Insight: Clearing the Past — Control Dramas — Answering the Question How
The Awareness of when we lose our inner connection with divine energy. Once our manipulation of others' energies is brought to personal awareness, our connection becomes more constant and then we can discover our own growth path in life, and our spiritual mission, the personal way we can contribute to the world.

In this awareness, we can release our own pattern of controlling, and discover a specific truth, a mission, we are here to share that helps evolve humanity toward this new level of reality.

The Seventh Insight: Engaging the Flow — Evolving Consciously — Answering the Question How
The Awareness that coincidences have been leading us towards the attainment of our missions and the pursuit of our life questions all along.

In pursuit of this mission, we can discover an inner intuition that shows us where to go and what to do, and if we make only positive interpretations, brings a flow of coincidences that opens the doors for our mission to unfold.

The Eighth Insight: The Interpersonal Ethic — The New Approach — Elucidating the Seventh Insight
The Awareness that most synchronicity takes place through the messages brought to us by other people and that a new spiritual ethic towards others enhances this synchronicity.

When enough of us enter this evolutionary flow, always giving energy to the higher-self of everyone we meet, we will build a new culture where our bodies evolve to ever higher levels of energy and perception.

The Ninth Insight: The Emerging Culture — Evolutionary Leap — What the Future Holds
The Awareness of how evolution will proceed as we live the other eight Insights. All of us will evolve towards the best completion of our spiritual mission.

In this way, we participate in the long journey of evolution from the Big Bang to life's ultimate goal: to energize our bodies, generation by generation, until we walk into a heaven we can finally see.

+ The Tenth Insight: Holding the Vision — Elucidating the Nine Insights — Questions of the Afterlife…
Each of us comes here on assignment, and as we pull this understanding into consciousness, we can remember a fuller birth vision of what we wanted to accomplish with our lives. Further, we can remember a common world vision of how we will all work together to create a new spiritual culture…

+ The Eleventh Insight: Prayer — Attaining through Visualization — The Method of Holding the Vision…
For centuries, religious scriptures, poems, and philosophies have pointed to a latent power of mind within all of us that mysteriously helps to affect what occurs in the future. It has been called faith power, positive thinking, the power of prayer. We are now taking this power seriously enough to bring a fuller knowledge of it into public awareness. We are finding that this prayer power is a field of intention and moves out from us and can be extended and strengthened, especially when we connect with others in a common vision…

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I do not mean to sound like a detractor because I strongly advocate creating an enlightened society however; I have found many stumbling blocks to that end; such as defining enlightenment for a society or civilization. For many enlightenment skirts the spiritual for others it is a knowledgeable and clear state of mind, for some it is a developmental stage. From what I am reading in this particular disscussion it is a spiritual (though not necassarily religious) state of being. If that is so what would be the defining characteristics of such an enlightened society?

Namaste

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An enlightened society IMHO would work towards providing the basics of food, clothing, and shelter for all. It would *really* live by the words,”do unto others as you would have them do unto you”. There would be respect and care for all (people, animals…the planet) by all. The minds of the members of this society might be all of the things you mention in your post; spiritual, developing, knowledgeable, and clear.

What do you think? 

starr

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Found the following outline by Laura Bryannan to be very comprehensive…

http://homestar.org/bryannan/celistin.html 

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I love being refreshed on spiritual truths. I read “The Celestine Prophesy” a couple years ago. I got to see the movie at a special viewing at the unity church of SanAngelo. What struck me most about the book was that I had felt and seen the energy manifestations shown. The whole story had a feel of truth to it. I felt it inside as real. It is very exciting to know that Zaadz has taken up the same cause, to reach critical mass.  I am blessed to take part. thank you                                                 jerry

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I think sometimes, but not often, that an enlightened world might be a world where human/social needs hold a higher value than material possessions. Where humans act humanely to each other and perhaps find it possible to put others needs ahead of their own occasionally. A world where submission to a higher power is demonstrated through inspired action to behave with dignity, respect, and most of all humility. A belief that there is enough for everyone and there can be more than one winner. Oh my! This all exists today in this enlightened world – let us all keep creating…

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Hi Robert & the rest of our fellow zaadzsters cum teachers who have cared enough to be sharing ideas here, 

As Wholeogram Man said recently on another thread, we are the ones that gave money its power…

What if we stop making decisions based on the influence of money or any other material possessions?

Yes I agree that we need values. in fact, my belief is that higher values are everything… they are what really contro/influence our decisions…  Sometimes we are not aware of them, and that's where they have the most power over us…

In the end, what we all want is to be happy… sometimes we think material possessions can give us that… so we accumulate them…

What if we already have all that we need to be happy?

What if all we need is the Clarity & Wisdom to Recognise & Appreciate the Perfection that already exist…

Sometimes I recognise, sometimes I don't… but just the awareness that this is one possible perspective to view & live life has itself been a great help to me… I hope this idea might help you too… be open & give it a chance to work for you…

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I don't think we need to be happy. I'd say, when you are 'happy' for the rest of your life, you become empty. And eventually you will no longer know what happiness is, because you have nothing to compare it to. A global 'happy' civilization, would seem therefore unlikely.

I don't think we need much possession, only those to satisfy yout physical needs, food, warmth, friends, space, adrenaline, sex. Etc. No matter how enlightent you are, you are still living in a body that eats and dies.

Why is money bad? why is this trading utensil considered so bad?
If you want to see an enlightened civilization, you have to start with enlightened people, not with the effects on the surroundings it might have in the future.

Make people aware of themselves, their needs, how love works in your brain chemically, and let them recognize those forms of love, you can't explain chemically. Let them see, how incredibly much we already have, and how incredibly interesting and dynamic the world is.
don't let them read about it, show it to them, with their own eyes. Educate them, and tell all the wonders nature, biology fysics and chemistry tells you. And indulge them with the mystical question they then still can't explain. The only value you ever need, it to be Fair. (and equal to all)
There is no perfection, there is a perfect state of chaos, but our unconscious mind, was already built to understand that. Let us enjoy the beauty, of the chaos, we call life. 

What is Happiness?

What is Happiness?

I don't agree with not needing to be happy because my definition of happiness covers the whole spectrum of feeling good & bliss… but I'd rather use the word wanting to be happy than needing…

I don't agree that there is no perfection. I agree with you that we must learn to enjoy the beauty, of the chaos, we call life… but I'm inclined not to focus on the word chaos… something just don't feel right but I'm not yet able to place a finger on what exactly this is…

I choose to believe in Perfection, one of the Laws of Life actually…

We might both be expressing the same things… just using different words to do so… for me, the only real perfection in life comes from appreciating the beauty of the imperfection found in Nature's creations.

There are unique beauty to be appreciated in the very crookedness of a tree, the unevenness of a mountain, the randomness of a beach and the chaos of the ocean. These are the perfectness of Nature's imperfections. This is natural and this is the perfection and divinity of the Universe. What might initially appear to be random or chaotic probably follow a pattern or cycle we are not yet aware of…

When we recognise, respect and appreciate this divine perfection that is inherent in nature, of which we are a perfect part of, we find the happiness and bliss that we seek.

There are no misfortunes in life. There are only missed fortunes… missed only because we fail to recognise and appreciate them as they truely are… fortunes, experiences, learning opportunities, seeds of wisdom…

“Every adversity, every failure, every heartache carries with it the seed of an equal or greater benefit.” ~ Napoleon Hill 

In the same way that oceans shape our beaches and rivers shape their banks, our lives are shaped by events that we label as adversities, which we may one day recognise as blessings in disguise. Can you recall some personal examples of such blessings? I have had plenty of them…

Life is full of blessings, we just have to learn to recognize them as such… and if we are not yet ready to do so… maybe it is better to simply acknowledge that we don’t really know if any situation would end well or not… Instead of labeling any event as good or bad, why not just accept its role in shaping our lives? This is yet another example of Divine Perfection… an example that holds infinite examples…

We don't always get what we want because what we want is not always what we need. But the lesson we need to learn is exactly what we would get at exactly the moment we need it. Ultimately, life will teach us all that we need to learn. Relationships reveal our true Self to us. All we need is the Clarity to see the lessons & the Wisdom to learn them. Life can teach us nothing until we are ready to learn… an open mind & heart is what we need.

Our imperfections are what make us perfectly unique… each of us a special and neccessary piece of the puzzle that complete the lives of those around us… or to expand from my recent email (An Expression of Gratitude & A Tribute to Interdependence) to my Friends @ Zaadz, we are all a point on someone else's Web of Life.  We inadvertently and invariably shape the lives of those we come into contact with…

“The humblest individual exerts some influence, either for good or evil, upon others.” ~ Henry Ward Beecher

In what ways are you influencing the poeple you come into contact with today?

All the resources we need are made available to us at the precise moment that is appropriate. The people who come into our lives are the ones we need at that moment in time. Everything is perfect. We only need to recognise this tune in to the flow.

You Are

In the Right Place,

At the Right Time,

Doing the Right Thing,

With the Right People,

For the Right Reason,

Everything is Perfect.

You Can Have the Right Results!

All you need is a Right Heart & Mind…

I was asked this question recently, “Is it better to join human depravity to prove reality, or is it better to lift others up to follow higher standards and good values?”

I'd go for the latter.

–
Namaste,
@lex Chua
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Happiness is not having a guru in any field dictate our path.  We often look to people to give us wisdom instead of finding it within ourselves through our own experiences.

Happiness is state of mind, a condition, a moment and not a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow, like “I'll be happy when I…”

Happiness is knowing yourself and accepting who you are without vaildation from brilliance or even mediocrity.  Both tend to be wrong.

Happiness is hearing criticism but not internalizing it and allowing it to change the fundamental you to please others who see you as clay they need to mold.  People  like to feel above others so it is natural for them to work on whittling you away.

Happiness is realizing everyone has a different version of truth and yours is no more or no less than anyone else's. 

Happiness is realizing the more wisdom people think they have, the less likely they are to be wise, and that you don't have to have all of the answers all of the time to be wise.  Saying “I don't know” makes you as smart as anyone else who thinks they have the real answer. 

Happiness is freedom, and opportunity and hope or the possibility of all three at any time during your life.

Happiness is your version of it realized.  Nobody can take that away from you unless you let them. 

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I also find the following views by Daniel Gilbert in Stumbling on Happiness to be interesting…

Many of the most productive and creative people are those who are continually unhappy with the world- and thus strive to change it.

Events and outcomes which we dread may when they come about turn into new opportunities for happiness.

Happiness is rarely as good as we imagine it to be, and rarely lasts as long as we think it will. The same mistaken expectations apply to unhappiness.

Many Thanks to www.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fpdp%2Fprofile%2FAHD101501WCN1">Shalom Freedman's reviews @ Amazon. 

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I am very grateful to have read your post alexchua. I am in search of truth. I may not always know the truth when I see it, but I know my truth when I see it. Your words touch me with my truth. I too, believe the universe to be perfect, every grain of sand in the exact place/time it has to be. Only my experience makes the difference between perfection, and chaos. I sometimes contemplate what constitutes a human being, and a human doing. I see nature existing, exactly fulfilling the purpose of it's existance, and I wonder, why can't I achieve that perfection of existance? In some moments, I know I'm exactly where I need to be right now, I'm in the flow. Then my thinking self, the me, kicks in and the flow, the feeling of rightness is gone. I wonder, if I was an unthinking idiot, with no identity, no awareness of me, would I be in that elusive state of happiness? Are coyotes happy? Are trees happy? If being in the flow, the awareness that I'm exactly doing what I need to be doing right now makes me happy, what makes it so fleeting? I believe it to be accumulated experience of connecting experience to self that makes it such a challenge to continually exist in oneness with All. I've read tonight here at your site, and I have gotten a glimpse of the bigger reality. Getting a glimpse of the Big Picture diminishes my self, and makes me more happy. Thank you all for your postings. I wish every one fullfillment in being happy!

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I prefer peace to happiness.

 Not saying I've attained it ;-)

just that I prefer it.

Namaste,

Janet

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Hapiness, for me, is when I know that I am in tune with my body, my world, my universe. It's when my level of vibration in the universe is so perfect that I can feel the harmony rushing through my veins. This can happen at any time because I am always in harmony with the one being of the universe that I am part of, its just a matter of recognizing it…

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Isn't it simplier to avoid definitions to instead live as oneself. In the living to experience all aspects of oneself, be it “happiness” or “sadness”, or the thousand other emotions a person will cycle within. To let things happen, as they may ?

In time when all is said and done: isn't that happiness to be truly yourself?

Peace

Casey
A Personal Tao 

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I think happiness is when we are in the 'flow' of life. In the flow of abundance. When we allow ourselves to both give and receive from our loving source. Some thoughts on this:

 

Giving From Fear

            If we ‘give to get', we never get the gift in giving. We continue to try getting our needs met in a round about way. We do not really ask for what we want, do not express how we feel, and often do not feel we deserve either one. Imagining that we can never get more than we give, we never truly receive the abundance that is always flowing to us.  

            When we give to others to ‘keep from losing', we will hold back giving to those who give to us. When there is no threat of losing the person who is already giving to us, we do not focus on giving to them. We only give when we are afraid we may lose. We protect ourselves from feeling the fear of loss by hoarding and holding back. When others give to us, we think there is an ulterior motive since we cannot connect to the gift in giving.

            When we do not give to others, we close our heart. When we do not receive from others, we take away their chance to open their hearts. Both create expectations that we then attach to giving.

            Examples of giving from fear:

                        If I spend time with you, you will give me money.

                        If I help you with your problems, you will help me with mine.

                        If I watch your kids, you will watch mine.

                        If I lose weight and look beautiful for you, you will not leave me.

                        If I give you advice, you will tell me how wonderful I am.

            Receiving from fear:

                        If I accept this gift from you, I will owe you something.

                        If I thank you for your compliment, I will look conceited.

                        If I let you do it for me and you do it wrong, I will look bad.

                        If we do what I want, then I will have to do what you want.

Giving & Receiving From Love

            When we give from love, there is no expectation of a response from another. Our giving is simply something that feels good to do. It increases our sense of connection to the whole of life. Giving from love has an unconditional quality to it. It comes with the intention to provide healing to another - from a place of compassion where we see ourselves in another and are moved to help. It is a remembering, on some level, that we are one.

            It feels good to give. When we allow others to give to us, they get to feel the ‘good feelings' that come from giving too. That is one reason it is critical that we let others give to us. To let others give to us we must receive what they offer. To push it away, or say we are not worthy of what they offer, closes down the flow. The cycle is only completed when we allow the energy to come into us. Notice your experience when someone gives to you. Do you say ‘thank you' and feel gratitude for what they have to offer? Do you make excuses as to why you do not deserve it? Do you experience a sense of isolation and a need to do it all yourself? When you do not allow yourself to receive from others, the universe cannot reach you. Often, the universe gives you what you need in the form of other people. Life does not have to be hard. If you allow the energy of others to support you, an increased feeling of connection to the whole is available.

            Try it today. Only for today, notice when you have a chance to give to others. Let another car go in front of you, say thank you to the grocery clerk, notice the new hairdo on your neighbor. Notice when others give to you as well. Do you receive their offering? What does it feel like when you push their gift away? What about when you let it in with gratitude?

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Sometimes I am sad and I am so content to be in that state of sadness that it makes me happy. So It seems to me not an emotional state but something more. An overflowing from the loving souce that Wendy wrote. There was a great review in The New Yorker about two books on Happiness. I am not an internet whiz to access them now but if you go to the Summer's New Yorkers and look for Happiness it is well worth the read.

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Here is how I see it…

Happiness is the other side of Sadness, it is transitory, and it can be looked as the peak which implies a valley.  Bliss on the other hand is realizing or being aware of or accepting or allowing all that there is to be as it is.  Creation needs a dualistic attitude - that is a view consisting of the space or container of all things to exist and the desire or the idea that is the seed of all that comes into existence.  All that exists, as pertaining to happiness, has a life span.  By definition it has to move or dance, so it awakes and it falls into sleep, or it is born and it has to die.  Therefore happiness is one aspect or face of the dance of creation.  The other aspect is Unhappiness or Sorrow.  As one can laugh one can also cry.  Both are the realities of the dance of creation.  Once they are both allowed to exist in our awareness we experience Bliss which also can be said it is the Peace that is beyond understanding.  Also, Bliss can be understood as being in God, Big Mind, or Love.

And all this is also just a view…

Re: Creating an Enlightened Civilization - The "how" of TheSecret

I am hosting The Secret  viewing and discussion this Saturday  July 22, 7 pm in Chicago, 222 Waukegan Rd, Glenview, Il 60062. It'll be special to have some of you show up there. I'll be a trully Enlightened event as I will demonstrate a WaveMaker technology that helps delete the energy of the negative conditioning from your energy field. We all know what to do, right? This is getting into the “how” of The Secret and the the “how ” of What the Bleep!

Lana

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I stop by and read this post often and my mind spins and and I want to speak and keep reading and keep reading, and often find myself full and post nothing.  You're all doing fine without me and I'll just sit back and take it in.

In reading this thread, though, this little blurb by Alexchua from his post above gave me a bit smile.  Here it is

“There are unique beauty to be appreciated in the very crookedness of a tree, the unevenness of a mountain, the randomness of a beach and the chaos of the ocean. These are the perfectness of Nature's imperfections. This is natural and this is the perfection and divinity of the Universe. What might initially appear to be random or chaotic probably follow a pattern or cycle we are not yet aware of… ”

I recognized happiness in this and felt it and wanted to say so. 

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My apologies - my previous post was to have appeared under this heading.

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A big thank you to all of you for participating in this exchange of ideas so that more insights may flow :-) 

I found this quotation by Andrew Schneider to offer a perspective that is different from what I proposed… 

“Most people assume that the purpose of life is to achieve or find happiness…. We must know that the purpose of life is to learn and to serve, for these are the ways that we create consciousness. Or we could say that the purpose of life is to learn to serve. …As we learn we discover meaning.”

I am inclined to think that both views can go hand in hand… personally, I feel very happy and fulfilled when I have the opportunity to learn and also to use what I learn to be of service.

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Research shows that happiness is a state of mind brought on by activating specific regions of the brain. Happiness can literally be “induced” … we even have “happy pills”. A better question might be, “How Important is Happiness”? I propose that happiness provides the “carrot” for us to chase, and consequently it is our unhappiness and discontent at various levels that drives the “pursuit” and facilitates progress … even something as simple as curiosity is a state of “discontent”. Once people become “happy” they lose the drive to make things any better and are content in that particular state. This is what makes “happy pills” so bad, they make people who have a reason to be unhappy and consequently be motivated to change for the better, to become complacent in their masked misery. Loke the great James T. Kirk said in The Final Frontier ” I need my pain ! ” ….

murf

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I have to tell you that this conversation has come up a lot lately.  Seems to be a topic on many minds.

I'm a rather happy person.  And I was trying to locate the part inside me that has created that space and also see when it is not true for me.  I am most often faltering into the land of discontent when I allow my brain to try to rapid control the world around me.  When I take from myself the ability to choose what will effect me and, instead, feel like I am at the effect.  When control becomes an issue, happiness rapidly departs.

So.  My mind creates unhappiness.

Now…. one of the things that has create the greatest space for happiness to dwell is accountability.  Personalized accountability.  WHen I own my life, reactions, and dreams as mine and not as something subject to other people, I find a space unfurl inside me.  When I allow the mundane to hold magic and take time to witness and delight in the world around me, more happines comes to me.

So.  My mind creates space for happiness.

To me, it is really that simple.  emotions are fleeting and transient.  Happiness is really a state of mind, and that is what I have come to believe.

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My selective summation of Murf and Jillianne's comments lead to the idea that Happiness is a state of mind and can be either mentally or chemically induced.

Emotions come… we view it in a certain way and we feel happy… Emotions come… we view it in another way and we feel unhappy.

Maybe Energy is a better word than emotions because we tend to label Happiness as an emotion. Going back to the thread on Emotions… Emotions are Energy vibrating at a certain frequency and depending on how we use our minds to direct this Energy, it can manifest in either positive or negative ways. In this case, we have labelled the positive as Happiness and the Negative as Sadness… or some other words across the spectrum of frequency…

Improving my last statement at the thread on Emotions with this new insight leads to the following statement: The way Energy come and go… just flowing through… passing by… Energy can pass through and change so fast… unless our minds label them as Emotions… and cling on to them…

On the topic of water, Ali just started a new thread on The Oceans of our Human Souls. This statement in particular resonates with me, “Most realize that a drop of water exists within the ocean but, few realize that the ocean exists within a drop.”

Ali also touched on passion… I have a question… the type that make me feel stupid… and stupidity to me is the same as Space… and yes I have not delivered on my promise to elaborate on what what Space means to me and why I think Space make way for Possibilities…

Anyway, here's my question… could it be that passion and anger are emotions which are manifested from Energy of the same (or very similiar) frequency?

My work involves helping people to claim their Purpose and find their Passion, so spend much of my time thinking and talking about both Purpose and Passion. I'm preparing for a coming workshop about the Clarity of our Life Purpose and this question just came to me.

Passion and Anger as the same Energy expressed in different ways… sounds like a far cry from sanity initially… but on further contemplation, this could have many practical implications and applications…

In general, we can consciously choose to direct our attention and hence Energy into constructive instead of destructive endeavors…

In reply to sushil_yadav's post, Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment, Domus Ulixes suggested that only seeing the worst and neglecting to consider the positive aspects of things is unfair to both ourselves and others. Can you see how the generalised principle above applies to this idea as well?

Back to the idea that Happiness is a state of mind and can be either mentally or chemically induced… taking the mental route, we can use the discipline of our mind to make a conscious choice to pay attention to and work for what we want, instead of working against that which we do not want.

Working against that which we do not want allows our Energy to flow towards and reinforce the existence or manifestation of that which we do not want. Being pro something instead of anti something on the other hand allows of to focus and direct all our Energy toward co-creating the change we want.

What is the change you want? Know it, propose it, and contribute effort and resources into the co-creation of that better outcome rather than trying to destroy what is already there…

Next time you disagree with anything, propose something better ;-)

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Great Stuff! 

I do have a few thoughts to scribble here before I leave that might jive with you and perhaps add something to your ideas  alexchua ..

Energy/vibrations = Emotions 

indeed..so..

How about Pure/High Energy/Vibrations = Love

Meanwhile distorted forms of love =  “negative” low energy patterns we can call emotions or “unhappiness” : 

jealousy=energetic distortion as a response to feeling someone else is getting more of the love/energy that we ourselves want,

anger=someone has forced/stoeln love/energy away from us,

sadness= a love has changed to pure energy “to the source” (death) and we can no longer sense an identity of its previous incarnation as it is vibrating so highly

Note: high energy/LOVE is found on all planes/levels of energy/existence.. the low distorted are not.  ie.. high frequency can penetrate a wall but low frequency can't

Now if we link this to karma then “like” energy vibrations attract to eachother.. when the energy has become concentrated/dense enough..it becomes heavy and can force its way in the gross dimensions of existence from the subtle realms?  IN a positive and negative way.  i.e. Collection of Angry thoughts leads to one angry punch. Punch once, why not punch twice?  This creates habits and patterns in the gross physical dimension. 

Taking this link further…most peoples “ideas” of  happiness v.s unhappiness .. are not important.  As was mentioned those are often linked to desires, cravings and aversions which are all distortions of pure energy..they are passing emotions based on an egoic love.   True “happiness” or purpose  is detecting/locating and collecting the pure energy or higher vibration or LOVE and then applying that high energy to lower densities and purifying it of its distortions and impurities transform egoic love  to a LOVE that radiates across all planes of existence. 

Kinda like what zaadz is all about.. we are collecting good energy and using it to increase and transform the vibration of ourselves and a larger whole

sorry if that train of thoughts was totally confusing.. i'm scared to even attempt to re-read that

either way….peace and good vibrations all!

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i'm not sure where this should go as i have not been as active as most of you here and therefore may not have read each and every thread/discussion of this topic.  i see you all explaining happiness in different terms relative to the vibrational energies and emotions and even god. 

although i believe deeply in our energies (i call it soul) the truth is that so many of us get hardwired in our childhood to accept certain things as “good” or “bad”.  those parents and other caregivers/nurturers set us up to expect certain things.  even love.  whatever we experienced as “love” in our homes early on is what is most comfortable for us in our adult relationships unless we consciously do a lot of healing. 

now as an adult approaching 40, i KNOW how my childhood messed up some of my perceptions.  i have worked through being one of 4 daughters of alcoholic parents and i see myself in every model of the family describing this.  i understand why i chose the spouse i chose, for better or worse.  only after all the healing can i truly set it aside and begin to focus on the higher reason for my own existence. 

i understand why my children were born to me and i know how to attain and maintain my own understanding of happiness.  i can see when my own discontent is coming from within or from the energies of those closest to me.  i am understanding and accepting each day that all of this, everything around us, is happening for a specific reason.  i believe now that we are, right now, creating the consciousness needed to evolve into what we were all truly meant to become. 

i believe we chose to be born into the lives we have in order to evolve.  my essence chose to be born to alcoholic parents so i would grow and heal, evolving from one “level” to the next, breaking the cycle that often persists.  in this life choice i made, i sort of paved the way for my children to come.

happiness is a relative term for each of us.  should we strive for happiness?  or is it a result of other things?  we feel happiness after having walked in the woods, connecting with nature.  we feel happiness within after realizing we have broken through one of our emotional triggers.  we feel happiness when we realize life is not all about money and stuff.

i am not sure i accomplished anything with this random string of ideas of what i believe in but i feel better.  maybe i just needed to post my philosophy on life huh?  either way, thanks for being here and for creating a space for us to do this.  i truly believe we are all connected.

love

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Wonderful post Laurie!

Thanks for being so open and sharing that. I found it very inspiring.

I hope to one day see/understand all the heavy duty karma that has been hardwired into this incarnation currently posting as 3gem :) then accept it, use it to evolve and move beyond it.

peace and happiness to you

3gem

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forgive me all if  my respond is brief  but

happiness is what is

(and i am not just copying pasting this from somewhere else :)

 the rest what we have is the action of will. i may be taken by will from wakeup through  the whole day long during most of my  lifetime and then i  would come up  with all sort of explanations and definitions which non is but the action of will  including the scientific/neurological brain micro processing approach and so forth, all of that in my eyes is getting lost, we are blackout we are distorted brain storms, we bow to conformity and ambition.

Sorry as i said am sorry – but this is what i see 

Re: What is Happiness?

For the sake of clarity, Murf's suggestion that Happiness is a state of “discontent” could be expanded as Happiness is a state we seek as a result of being “discontent” with the current illusion of reality. The idea that such “discontent” becomes a basic human motivation to change for the better is in line with Daniel Gilbert's finding that many of the most productive and creative people are those who are continually unhappy with the world and thus strive to change it.

However, Daniel Gilbert also wrote that Happiness is rarely as good as we imagine it to be and rarely lasts as long as we think it will.

This helps explain why Bliss might be a much better word to use than Happiness in describing our pursuit in life…

The importance of purpose really kicks in here. I'll restate the quotation from Andrew Schneider, “Most people assume that the purpose of life is to achieve or find happiness…. We must know that the purpose of life is to learn and to serve, for these are the ways that we create consciousness. Or we could say that the purpose of life is to learn to serve. …As we learn we discover meaning.”

Without first claiming our Life Purpose, we could climb our way up the coporate ladder, or any of life's ladders for that matter, only to discover that the ladder have been leaning against the wrong wall all along… …

Knowing our Life Purpose allows us to experience true Bliss in our lives… and  in a similiar way, understanding the Law of Perfection helps us recognise the Happiness and Bliss that is already around us. When we recognise and appreciate this, we also reconnect with the Happiness and Bliss that has always been within us.

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Ultimatly we need to free ourselves from attachments and attain equinamity in our lives. “Happiness” and “unhappiness” are due to the fulfilling or not of desires. This material plane holds us to it with our interaction with it. Uniting our will to God’s will can bring us to an ever increasing bliss which is union with God.

Peace

Yogi

Happiness / Purpose of Life

Suggesting that the purpose of life is to learn may be true, but then again it may not be true. The answer depends on the context. For example if one is currently operating on circumstance that this purpose has been imparted to them, either by the process of living or by a higher intelligence. However it can also be simply a trait of intelligent things, which is an entirely different concept than purpose. How do we know what the case may be? There is certainly evidence in support of both.

Looking at it in relative terms. A dog is able to learn, but it's purpose is often defined by its owner, for example, the purpose of a seeing eye dog is to aid the visually impaired. This is a purpose that has been imparted on it by a higher intelligence. The problem for humans is that we are at the top end of the observable intelligence scale on Earth. It also turns out that most people are “followers” so when we seek purpose, the followers tend to seek a higher power or intelligence to impart purpose them. However the “leaders” tend to believe that we impart our own purpose. Intellectuals tend to be skeptical of the whole business, which is probably why happiness tends to elude them more often.

murf

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I got the following quotation from Stephen Shapiro in my inbox today.

“Forcing life to go down a particular path often leads to dissatisfaction and failure. The solution is detachment - letting go of specific outcomes – playing full out, not worrying or caring about how things turn out. The surest way to detach from one outcome is to reattach yourself to a more empowering outcome: serving others, replacing a bad habit with a good one, or focusing on the present.” ~ Stephen Shapiro

Albert Einstein once said, “When you sit with a nice girl for two hours, it seems like two minutes. When you sit on a hot stove for two minutes, it seems like two hours.” This is relativity. What if you could change your perception of time?

Like time, Happiness is in many ways a relative concept… what if we can change our perception of Happiness?

Suppose you were given a remote control that allows you to control your life, how would you use it? Fast forward past the parts where you experience negative Energy and emotions, rewind to re-live (but not change) the past where you experienced Happiness, Bliss, Beauty, Goodness, Joy, Oneness, Truth etc., live life in slow motion where you experience positive Energy and emotions… …

According to Stephen's goalaholic survey of over 1,000 individuals, 61% of the population finds themselves saying, “I will be happy when…”

Their happiness awaits them in the future. How many of these people, if given such a remote control, would use the fast forward button to get to that point when they think they would be happier?

In his book, www.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fproduct%2F0471772801%2Fsr%3D8-1%2Fqid%3D1153473807%2Fref%3Dpd_bbs_1%3Fie%3DUTF8" target="_blank">Goal-Free Living, Stephen  also talks about being present,  savoring the moment… living the life you want now… experiencing Happiness and Perfection of Life by the moments…

How satisfied are you with your life?  One measure of success might be your “slow motion to fast forward ratio.”  How much of your day would you run in slow motion?  5 minutes? 1 hour? 3 hours? 24 hours? Never?  How much of your day would want to fast forward past? 2 hours? 8 hours (your workday)? 24 hours (skip the day altogether)? The higher the ratio between slo mo and fast forward, the higher the satisfaction with your life.

What's your ratio? What percentage of the time do you savor the moment versus how often do you want to fast forward your life?

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“Forcing life to go down a particular path often leads to dissatisfaction and failure. The solution is detachment - letting go of specific outcomes - playing full out, not worrying or caring about how things turn out. The surest way to detach from one outcome is to reattach yourself to a more empowering outcome: serving others, replacing a bad habit with a good one, or focusing on the present.” ~ Stephen Shapiro

Re: Creating an Enlightened Civilization - The "how" of TheSecret

I know it is a bit late to tell this (about a year or so), But any 'wavemaker' or 'technology' used to 'delete' energy of the negative conditioning from your energyfield. I sbullshit in many ways:

- Sure one can make waves, and one can disperse waves , however these need to be carefully placed. For this to work, you need a Cat-scan like of equepment for the theorie behind the technology to hold any constituanty whatsoever.

- You cannot delete energy, you can only adapt it, as in the case of dispersion, it disperses to heat.

- 'Negative conditioning' Is something personal, therefore not equal to anyone. If indeed such energy fields would exist. My negative energy field, will be totally different then for instance yours. As we both handle different definitions of the meaning of the word 'negative' and most of all, have different working brains.

All in all, it is easier, to actually learn about the 'how' as in the “how” 's of you. As it basicly consists out of scientifically proven concepts, meaning: you can reproduce it.
Don't spend money on stupid silly things like 'negative energy deleters' They only work in a placebo kind of fashion. And hell, that is available everywhere for free…

Re: Creating an Enlightened Civilization

Or you could subscribe to the philosophy that the purpose of life is to create (from Conversations with God).

Mary

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Or to be more specific: to decide and declare, and then co-create and experience who we really are.  

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Creating an Enlightened Civilization implies two entities if you agree; the Pre/Non Enlightened Civilization versa the Created Enlightened Civilization.

if i was to try and say the difference between them simply, in one sentence  I’d say; The Pre/Non Enlightened  is aware of  personal self centered dependency while the Enlightened is aware of  communication/togetherness/oneness/inspiration as the source of awareness.

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Creating an Enlightened Civilization implies two entities if you agree; the Pre/Non Enlightened Civilization versa the Created Enlightened Civilization.

if i was to try and say the difference between them simply, in one sentence  I’d say; The Pre/Non Enlightened  is aware of  personal self centered dependency while the Enlightened is aware of  communication/togetherness/oneness/inspiration as the source of dependency.

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the Enlightenednt  is aware of  communication/togetherness/oneness/inspiration as its being

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The true purpose of our existance is to re-merge with the Infinite source…

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Now that is interesting. I read The Disappearing Universe and that was the concept put forth by Gary Rendon. We have never left the source, we are there asleep and we are dreaming this reality. It is ego that is causing us to stay separated. When we begin to recognize ego and to forgive all those we perceive as having wronged us, then we begin to awaken. It is an interesting book.

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The true purpose of our existance is to re-merge with the Infinite source…

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How would we then combine our true purpose of existence to re-merge with the Infinite source, with the Creating an Enlightened Civilization ?

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How would we then combine our true purpose of existence to re-merge with the Infinite source, with the Creating an Enlightened Civilization ?  HOW WOULD WE INDEED !  -  that must be the $64,000 question for us all at zaadz …

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Dear Michael thank you for reminding me this question -a $64,000 one too :)

the answer is pretty simple;    it can not be done by any of us
                                    
and all the ways, both traditional and most recent  are no more than wishful thinking

- - now let me go see that drawing - -

YY

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Giving it some sleep over , i can say that to merge the two, the inner and the outer which are in fact the same

a shift of stage in one is possible after one looses his faith and the order and set of values by which he lives and looses his emotional connectedness and flow with himself and others and consequently you drop down entirely out - and down on which lays underneath..

Same perhaps goes to the entire society, if the whole of humanity is to shift when a massive and deep-through  realization of the falseness in our life, beliefs and system must take place before the entire social structure falls and breaks down without remedy on which lays  underneath. and becomes that

nothing less - but nothing more :)

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:))

Re: Re 2 : Creating an Enlightened Civilization--impossible?

Hi' Yosyama and dear all,

I incline to see your points that the traditional belief and practising system of life of the global society must be shifted to self critics and self impose post -motem analysis in the wake of the happenings of the 20th and 21st centuries ,where men unable to be at peace with themselves but continue to destroy the planet uncomparable in all times of the mankind history combined ,.there is where we are today ,as men continue to cling to self center  to serve their  egoistic false  pride and belief system  , that further widen the rift and gap between  mandkind of the same kind ,are we not ?(hope not too heavy )


The vision to create an Enlightened  Civilization lies in the self imposed mission of individual endeavour and passion as mentioned of the enlightened individual groups ,and the ability and capacity to connect and interact with these groups of like minded of our  societal in a  free will and loose form(uninstitutionalised ) ,of self imposed and  regulated ,and initiate to turn them  into movements of societal dimension both local and global by adopting local wise practises and global perspective and linkages ,similiar to vision of zaadzster and strive beyond where we are today .


This is not a movement of change  of impossibity ,as we are already initaiting  a little step our selves(aren't we zaadzster?), what we require is far-sighted and wise leadership of diffrent levels and a die hard self adopted value firing up infinity  inside your hearts(do we ?) , inspiring out of peace ,compassion, and above all the transcendental wisdom of selflessness and eternity  ,in the context of interdependency of a globalised reality and envisaged enlightened civilization in  the making .


 
Amitabha


king


p/s : I think we do not have to cut thru and differentiate  between the enlightened and the so called unenlightened groups ,just provide the platfrom and continue to spread the words  connect and inspire to attract  the like mind as enlightment  find its  own levels with individuals  and  reflow ;For  is a life long mission for individuals and individual groups to find erternal meaning to reshape  our combined  life and entity  .     

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Man-oh-man. Gee Wilikers this is an interesting thread. Your head does get a bit 'full up” from taking in stuff and it then becomes an interesting challenge to share something coherent and relevant.

Alex…“but I'm inclined not to focus on the word chaos… something just don't feel right but I'm not yet able to place a finger on what exactly this is…”

Oh please do focus on chaos. Chaos (ala physics) is necessary for change. Major change needs major chaos. Ya' gotta break eggs to make an omelet

Think of it as a huge though/energy field that can be used to manifest great things. If you want light just plug your cord into the socket and you get light. The more of us that plug our lights into this energy the more light we create for the world.

If you are no plugging in your light to use this energy then who is going to use this energy and for what purpose? What kind of world will there be.

If enough people believe that it is possible to to Create an Enlightened Civilization…then it is.

So jump on board.

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Thanks Dragon Dancer,

Well said & I love your metaphors :-)

Out of chaos comes comes clarity… embrace chaos as it arises… not focus on it… pay attention instead to what can come of it. Ask “what else is possible?”, not “what is wrong?

Re: Re 2 : Creating an Enlightened Civilization--impossible?

Maybe and enlightened civilizatioin already exists….we just have to remember that we are enlightened…..just as most of the people on this site have done.  We are perfectly enlightened and part of the force, we just have to realize it.  The realization of self (thus realization of everything you are part of) is the highest form of personal enlightenment I know of.  Imagine– that since everything is connected, then enlightenment of the self makes enlightenment of the society entirely possible.  If I can do something, if several people can do something, then this organism we are all part of called civilization can do it also.  We have already scientifically proven collective conciousness….the trick is getting it to work toward enlightenment and that is exactly what zaadz is doing in my oppinion.  Several thousand enlightened people sharing and taking these things in….adding to the collective conciousness what goes on here.  If it continues to grow…then eventually it will spread faster thus creating enlightened civilization.
There have been studies on the collective conciousness done with monkies, and ancient human civilization proves these theories also….I wont go into all of it here but it is something I suggest any one look up.
peace and love to you all!
a

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“Ours will not be a plan of resistance. It will be the lifting up of a vision into manifestation through the minds of many.” (Chapter 6)

Handbook for the New Paradigm

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This is a fascinating discussion.  This sentence is so accurate - “Ours will not be a plan of resistance. It will be the lifting up of a vision into manifestation through the minds of many.” (Chapter 6)  And it makes sense, doesn't it?  Resisting what we don't know can be a barrier, and it's a form of fear.  And some fears are valid, too.  So, I guess in creating an enlightened society, the fears are the barriers to it.  And maybe this sentence means once the fears are risen above, something new will emerge in the collective?  Very interesting, Moni

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My new Dream of a Butterfly workshop that I am envisioning for the year 2007 is focused on creating an Enlightened Society (which is also the Shambhala Vision).

Three things that an Enlightened Society must love and cherish are: Knowledge, Wisdom and Truth

And each of them can be understood at many levels, the highest being the Universal and non-dual perspective.

So ours would be based on a process of understanding how realities are created and how best to evolve consciously so we can collectively co-create realities that works for the highest good of both the individual and the society.

We need to unlearn many things before we can begin learning from a fresh and empty mind. This is difficult if we have not looked within our own social conditionings and our sense of self that is very much socially constructed.

Our calling is to be authentic and genuine by honoring the sacred within each other and all life forms.  Walking every step mindfully and lovingly is our final journey back to home - our own self-enlightened peaceful nature.

Peace & Joy.
Mita

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Knowledge, Wisdom and Truth is extremely important however if there wasn't compassion in that equation i strongly think every mathematical formula would be wrong!

I had the priviledge of meeting some of the greatest professors and a some really intelligent dudes….. but without compassion the information wasn't taugh as quickly and was hard to grasp.  They were arragonant and no one took their time to reach out to the class. 
Compassion and wisdom goes hand n hand.  It's the only way we're going to solve for X.