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Happiness is a ChoiceOcean said Oct 1, 2006, 10:54 AM: |
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we create or decide not to create happiness in our own lives. |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceJill said Oct 1, 2006, 12:07 PM: |
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Good timing, Ocean. I have been working through the Four Agreements (Don Miguel Ruiz) one more time. I'm so intensely focused on choosing words right now that support me, rather than allowing my language to create a pattern of suffering. When I limit and speak to myself in damaging ways, I'm choosing anything but happiness. |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceAlex Chua said Oct 2, 2006, 7:34 AM: |
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Interesting… I'm on the Four Agreements too! |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceDomus Ulixes said Oct 1, 2006, 1:07 PM: |
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Aw yeah, how questionable happiness is. What it is, what it means, how we get it etc. etc. etc. What is love? how do you become happy. Probably the same question. So If I agree that you choose happiness, what does that mean for the rest of my comparrison? |
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Re: Happiness is a Choiceyosyama [no longer around] said Oct 1, 2006, 2:27 PM: |
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as i was going to add that the being able to choose anything at a given instance; by understanding this process is a possible ground for happiness (if one so chooses:) |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceDomus Ulixes said Oct 1, 2006, 2:41 PM: |
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If it stand in so many books, why do people even have trouble doing it? |
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Re: Happiness is a Choiceyosyama [no longer around] said Oct 1, 2006, 2:50 PM: |
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people are doing just what they want so if they have trouble doing it, the having trouble is also what they want.. |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceDomus Ulixes said Oct 2, 2006, 12:06 AM: |
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Excactly, If people are doing excactly what they want, who are we to tell them, what they should want? Is offering them a different perspective not a better course of action? (Note, this has nothing to do with your above piece) |
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Re: Happiness is a Choiceyosyama [no longer around] said Oct 2, 2006, 8:21 AM: |
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I gave it quite a bit of thought and this what I came up with. right, we are doing exactly what we want and I am not offering anybody anything at large unless one is a close friend or a moment of intimacy gave me a chance, then I can try to express my mind and heart. Yet (we) people practice control through multitude of pattern, authority and system; and many never ask “who are we to tell them” instead, by no mean follow that self built sense of fulfillment and thoughts needing aggrandizement to whatever bitter result So we are as if confronted / or are we off-balance (?) To not be caught in conflict and empower slavery we can choose not to follow the glitch, by discernment you recognize it, then stop reacting; when the reaction stops, like a cat, the oppressor may not see where we are and if we know to unlock the conflict by forgiving we regain balance, or we contemplate until we release the conflict entirely – cause we’re part of both sides, the oppressor and the victim. In short, by not being reactive we try to maintain sanity and with discernment we know how to behave and by allowing we restore balance There is this most critical point with which I also consulted while considering your profound question You may consider that I am incorporating terms taken from the NP book into my personal expressing nature trying to introduce agreeable terms for a global Statement of Purpose I wonder how you reflect |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceDomus Ulixes said Oct 2, 2006, 10:11 AM: |
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Well, first I had to find a dictionary, as I do not know all english words just yet. And I had to check out that 'critical point', I must say, I'm happy I discovered that by myself, or I would probably have been stuck on a daily prayer, something I know I can never put my mind to. Because I forget to do it. (or just do not see the use, though I know, it was there once) |
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Re: Happiness is a Choiceyosyama [no longer around] said Oct 2, 2006, 11:11 AM: |
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yes, both are also true for me; and i use new words as i go along here I must use dictionary and contemplate the proper use; all in all seems to need constant deviation for the expansion, an action that in earnest needs, frees and allows a new language creating, isn't it fun . . |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceDomus Ulixes said Oct 2, 2006, 11:19 AM: |
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Creating new language.. poetry! (but then the real sort) |
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Re: Happiness is a Choiceyosyama [no longer around] said Oct 2, 2006, 12:42 PM: |
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are rhythms the language of creation ? |
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Re: Happiness is a Choicekiki5711 said Oct 28, 2006, 6:29 AM: |
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If it sounds so easy in the books, then why is the world so miserable? Right.? |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceNicole said Oct 29, 2006, 5:07 AM: |
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Dear Kiki, |
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Re: Happiness is a Choicekiki5711 said Nov 1, 2006, 1:00 PM: |
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Dear Nicole |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceNicole said Nov 4, 2006, 5:53 AM: |
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Dear Kiki, |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceOcean said Jan 12, 2007, 9:37 AM: |
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Happiness is achieved when we're doing our best - that is, being Compassionate - that is our best nature - then we're helping to heal with every meal! - Living in service to the All is true happiness! |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceOcean said Jan 12, 2007, 9:35 AM: |
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So right - Being Compassionate with our food makes us truly aligned with all of life, and we know that by every meal, we're saving human lives too, since eating Vegan saves the grain for fellow humans, heals the environment, as well as our own bodies and souls! |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceJill said Oct 1, 2006, 4:42 PM: |
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ok, more of my two cents. |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceAlex Chua said Oct 2, 2006, 10:28 PM: |
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In this memorable talk, filmed at TED2004, Dan Gilbert demonstrates just how poor we humans are at predicting (or understanding) what will make us happy. (Recorded February 2004 in Monterey, CA. Duration: 22:02) Download this talk: Audio (MP3) | Video (MP4) In this talk, Barry Schwartz persuasively explains how and why the abundance of choice in modern society is actually making us miserable. (Recorded July 2005 in Oxford, UK. Duration: 20:22) Download this talk: Audio (MP3) | Video (MP4) |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceHappi Ness said Oct 10, 2006, 1:50 PM: |
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I recently took a holiday job which is not difficult, it is waitressing. What is difficult is the other staff, they are difficult to work with, the energy there can be very draining and they are under staffed very often. |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceTRUST 22 said Oct 10, 2006, 8:57 PM: |
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My personal opinion is that we control our happines our future and our path… the big problem I see this days is that most of us forgot that we could do it or the extend of our power. How much can we change? how much can we contro? personaly I think we can do as much as we believe in us. If you believe you can manifest or create absolutley everything in your life with out an inch of doubt then you will. I am there yet? No, but my goal is to reach that point weer I am so in synch with the universe and the people around me that everything that I really want/need I will get… and here is the tricky part becasue I think I am already getting absolutley everything that I need is some time what I want that I don’t get… The biggest question for me is…. how to open the eyes and mind of our friends and family to this reality? How can we show them that we can be what ever we want to be? I know by now that some peopel don’t want to listen that we are creators, most of the time just becasue they refuse to believe that they created such a crappy life… at the same time I think the first step into anything is assume FULL responsability for everything that happens in your life THEN you can manifest as much as you want… I am very glad that this pod was created thanks Alex and that all of you are sharing your ideas THANSK TO ALL OF YOU !!! SEE YOU SOON
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceAlex Chua said Oct 29, 2006, 5:44 AM: |
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Many people are not happy because they made an agreement with themselves that they will be happy only if this or that happend first… they may have forgotten about these agreements but the effect is obvious… unhappiness because want they want is not happening yet. |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceHappi Ness said Jan 19, 2007, 7:29 PM: |
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I guess that happiness can be as empty or as full as you feel it. I doubt that it is ever as superficial as a smile, and I certainly can imagine marketing campaigns that reflect your point of view. (Oh look we got a family 4WD and now suddenly we are all happy, despite the strain that the car loan and increased fuel costs are making on our income, we are all going to drive to the beach and smile a lot today!) |
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Why do some people choose to be unhappy?Alex Chua said Nov 1, 2006, 5:28 AM: |
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As I go about my writing exercise today, I realise that my lead character was unhappy because he made a choice to be unhappy… and he made this choice because at a sub-conscious level, it made him feel alive… maybe this is pure fiction… or maybe there is some truth in this… … |
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Re: Why do some people choose to be unhappy?Domus Ulixes said Nov 1, 2006, 6:12 AM: |
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I once stated (a long time ago). 'negativism is a form of laziness' |
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Re: Why do some people choose to be unhappy?Alex Chua said Nov 1, 2006, 9:02 AM: |
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What you say might be very true for people who are already unhappy and decide at some sub-conscious level to remain in that state… |
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Re: Why do some people choose to be unhappy?Alex Chua said Nov 1, 2006, 9:47 AM: |
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Also… it could be that for every unhappy event in a person's life, there is a happy event… then it all depend on which one of these events a person choose to focus his/her attention on. The Law of Attraction becomes the Law of Attention and herein lies the power of Gratitude. |
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Re: Why do some people choose to be unhappy?Domus Ulixes said Nov 1, 2006, 10:57 AM: |
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I don't think unhappiness is anyhow less intense then happiness. At least, not in my experience. What I do know, is that people tend to remember pain, sadness and other forms of unhappiness (it can differ from person to person) much better then the happy moments. And when the time comes, there is far more painful experience ready to remember then the good parts. But yes, when one would start from point zero, it is both as hard to get. but what would be harder, to (newly) achieve point zero, or to become happy or unhappy again? |
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Re: Why do some people choose to be unhappy?Alex Chua said Nov 1, 2006, 11:42 AM: |
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Great! Memory is important. |
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Re: Why do some people choose to be unhappy?tinkonthebrink said Nov 2, 2006, 9:34 AM: |
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Alex - |
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Re: Why do some people choose to be unhappy?J~E~S~S said Nov 3, 2006, 9:17 PM: |
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Great conversation, here. |
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Re: Why do some people choose to be unhappy?Alex Chua said Nov 6, 2006, 11:28 PM: |
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Thanks Jeannie & Jessica, both your views are so true. Fear is a key factor which gives birth to anger, worry, jealousy etc. It is also because of fear that we have so many expectations. We demand that things remain the same or turn out the way we want, forgetting that life have a rhythm of its own… … |
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Re: Why do some people choose to be unhappy?Happi Ness said Jan 19, 2007, 7:38 PM: |
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I'll feel most unhappy when I feel impotence, when I am frustrated and feel that I cannot change something: or it is not the right thing to change something if I am to respect another, I feel impotent. This leads to a whole range of other emoions, including anger, for me. |
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Re: Happiness is a Choicekiki5711 said Nov 1, 2006, 8:34 AM: |
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Happiness mean different thing to different people. In that respect I can't see how one definition such as “happiness is a choice” can apply. |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceHappi Ness said Nov 1, 2006, 12:48 PM: |
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I'm not sure about this, it seems to me that there could be two people with exactly the same tangible lifestyle, yet one will be happy and one not. |
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Re: Happiness is a Choicekiki5711 said Nov 2, 2006, 4:15 AM: |
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I agree with you HappiNess. |
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Re: Happiness is a Choicecrow said Nov 7, 2006, 6:17 AM: |
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In the most fundamental way, happiness is a choice. I always think of Viktor Frankl when this subject comes up. To be able to feel love and peace while suffering and witnessing horrible losses and cruelties in a concentration camp.. that's as compelling an argument for “happiness is a choice” as any I can imagine. (If you are not familiar with his story, you might wish to read his book, “Man's Search for Meaning”. It's short, and could stay with you for the rest of your life. It has, for me http://www.amazon.com/Mans-Search-Meaning-Viktor-Frankl/dp/0671023373 ) |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceNicole said Nov 8, 2006, 3:58 AM: |
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Dear crow, you always remind me of what's important! Victor is very inspiring. Thanks, and hugs, |
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Re: Happiness is a Choicecrow said Nov 8, 2006, 5:14 AM: |
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Nicole, |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceOcean said Jan 12, 2007, 9:41 AM: |
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I was just about to cite this great book! |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceHappi Ness said Jan 19, 2007, 7:51 PM: |
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Yes, that's a very important point Crow and most of us get depressed at some stage in our lives which is probably part of growing. It is a horrible place to be, but a place where many people spend some time. I only hope that these people stay safe until thet find their window, however high it is, to climb through into the shared world where they can feel more in control again. |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceOcean said Jan 12, 2007, 10:15 AM: |
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Becoming happy is so easy! |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceAlex Chua said Jan 9, 2007, 2:06 AM: |
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“Happiness is not a matter of good fortune or worldly possessions. It's a mental attitude. It comes from appreciating what we have, instead of being miserable about what we do not have. It's so simple, yet so hard for the human mind to comprehend.” ~ John Luther |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceJill said Jan 9, 2007, 4:08 PM: |
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Hi Alex, I just finished the book “Left to tell” by Immaculee Ilibagiza. She's an amazing testament to courage, faith, hope and love. She survived the Rwanda genocide, and suffered the loss of nearly her entire family. Joy wasn't robbed from her, even in the midst of horror and inhumane rampage and murder. She knew she had the choice and she exercised her choice time and time again. She emerged whole and willing to embrace joy and hope. Awesome book. I highly recommend it for people that want to “yea but” the option of being happy! Jill |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceAlex Chua said Jan 9, 2007, 5:54 PM: |
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Thank you Jill :-) I've not read this yet. |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceKyo said Jan 9, 2007, 11:36 PM: |
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I haven't read that book, but a couple of weeks ago I saw her on a Wayne Dyer PBS special. and I thought she was very inspirational. What a horrible tragedy to go through– I can't imagine being in that situation. Blessings on her. I definitely believe happiness is a choice. There's two ways to look at life– through victimhood or through opportunity. If you choose opportunity, you will always see that happiness is tangible, and available. |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceJill said Jan 10, 2007, 10:13 AM: |
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Kyo, I saw the same special with Dyer. It is what made me want to read the book and I can't begin to sum up how instrumental that book has become in shaping something truly magical in my life by connecting to others that remark on this book. So, now I have an increased fondness! |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceKyo said Jan 11, 2007, 12:33 AM: |
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You know, my family is from Uganda, which is next door to Rwanda. In the early 80s, during the horrible Idi Amin era, a lot of my extended family (and tribe) were targeted. I wasn't in Uganda at the time, but much grief did visit my family. It was a horrendous time of suffering, and many ppl lost their lives and many were displaced. |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceAlex Chua said Jan 15, 2007, 8:36 AM: |
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Re: Happiness is a Choicekevin said Jan 11, 2007, 2:18 PM: |
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At times I think happiness chooses us. Some people have better natural chemical cocktails than others. Most of us are somewhere in the middle of the “happy” curve. I think events and tragedy can take a toll on individual happiness. I also know people who smile all the time, but don't think or feel deeply. Happiness can be a state of denial or detachment. Perserverance and compassion seem like better choices to me. |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceOcean said Jan 12, 2007, 10:20 AM: |
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Yes! ”Perserverance and compassion seem like better choices to me.” - |
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Re: Happiness is a Choicemoonstar said Jan 15, 2007, 12:20 PM: |
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Dear Alex, your photo and quotation contain Truth (with a capital “T.) Now I would like to add the concept of choosing love to the mix, which perhaps may be a very large part of happiness. I believe we also must consciously choose to love, and not simply passively wait for it to “hit” us as though it were a runaway train. Further, I believe we may need to make that same choice over and over again. I am speaking here of every kind/type of love. But more to the point here, I wonder if perhaps the choice to love must necessarily preceed any feeling of overall “happiness.” |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceAlex Chua said Jan 15, 2007, 8:42 PM: |
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Hi Linda, |
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Re: Happiness is a Choicemoonstar said Jan 16, 2007, 4:17 PM: |
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Hmmmmm Alex, much to think about here. Without doubt, shared love brings greater sense of happiness than simply receiving it. But very often in life, we are not able to wait until there is a full compliment of “shared love.” That is where/when I believe “choosing to love” becomes critical to “enhanced happiness” at the very least. |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceAlex Chua said Jan 18, 2007, 2:38 AM: |
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Hi Linda, |
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Re: Happiness is a Choiceyosyama [no longer around] said Jan 15, 2007, 2:06 PM: |
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being happy is love that needs nothing |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceJill said Jan 17, 2007, 9:48 AM: |
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hmmm. Interesting stuff. |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceGaiabreeze said Jan 17, 2007, 6:27 PM: |
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All those who suffer in the world do so |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceAlex Chua said Jan 17, 2007, 11:22 PM: |
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Reminds me of this quootation from William R. Inge. |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceGaiabreeze said Jan 18, 2007, 5:40 PM: |
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I've been browsing quotes about Happiness at The Quote Garden. |
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceAlex Chua said Apr 23, 2007, 2:46 AM: |
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You brought up a very good point, Gaiabreeze. This boils down to a lack of gratitude & appreciation doesn't it? This thread seems to have ended with the idea that happiness is the mental habit of focusing our attention on 1) what we already have and 2) something outside ourselves that inspires our devotion, and 3) choosing to live in joy regardless of external or internal circumstances… … “Happiness doesn't depend on any external conditions, it is governed by our mental attitude.” “Remember happiness doesn't depend upon who you are or what you have; it depends solely on what you think.”
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Re: Happiness is a ChoiceAlex Chua said Apr 23, 2007, 6:25 AM: |
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& here's another 2 I got in my mailbox today from one of my favourite site, Higher Awareness. The site has recently undergone a major upgrading & is now a membership site offering hundreds of journaling and personal growth resources including the Smart Question Coaching themes along with its 18 programs which I highly recommend. “Happiness cannot be traveled to, owned, earned, worn or consumed. Happiness is the spiritual experience of living every minute with love, grace, and gratitude.” ~ Denis Waitley
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