Gaia: Yes We Have Heaven tag:gaia.com,2008,:Gaia http://groups.gaia.com/yes_heaven/discussions/feeds/pod/16880 en-us 20 Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:35:06 GMT Gaia: Yes We Have Heaven Re: Grooving and flying with Yes more directly than ever... http://wholeographicself.gaia.com Wholeogram Man tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-486284 Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:35:06 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/yes_heaven/conversations/view/486187#486284 <p> Squire sure is an inspiration, isn&#39;t he? I used to play parts of The Fish and Hearts of the Sunrise on acoustic guitar myself. A fun and excellent way to learn! Never played bass, but love the sound. Looks like you have fun with a lot of instruments. </p> Grooving and flying with Yes more directly than ever... http://professionalhumanbeing.gaia.com luap tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-486187 Mon, 05 Oct 2009 01:09:19 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/yes_heaven/conversations/view/486187 <p> Now the proud owner of a Rickenbacker 4001 CS.<br />When I forst touched it, I played in order:&#39;<br />Siberian Khatru<br />Heart Of The Sunrise<br />The Fish<br /><br /><br />aaahhh... that dreamy butter yellow beast roars. </p> The Gates of Delirium Diagram Script http://wholeographicself.gaia.com Wholeogram Man tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-484668 Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:54:12 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/yes_heaven/conversations/view/484668 <p> As is the Phoenix (the sacred firebird in Egyptian mythology where the bird fiercely and painfully burns and then somehow rises, transforms, from its own ashes of despair into a new young bird), so too is The Gates of Delirium. From the new book “Spontaneous Evolution,” “The story of a structure (humanity) failing and something else rising is a familiar one that plays out over and over again in the biosphere (nature). Life is in a constant state of perpetual re-creation.” &nbsp;<br /><br />We are in the midst of a transition from hopelessness to hope. As an old way of life falls away and a new one emerges, I am currently feeling the value of immersing oneself in knowing the hopelessness we have experienced, and are currently experiencing now.<br />&nbsp;&nbsp;<br />This transition is yet to be determined. Perhaps this music can help us freely choose Hope and make the changes we need for the world’s sanity, and for our own sanity.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /><br />As many Yesfans know, the strong emotional pull of “The Gates of Delirium” fulfills the need of helping a listener come to their own understanding of the dual forces of good and evil within themselves.&nbsp;<br /><br />Below is the experience of this piece of music in text form. I created a CD with my voice on top of the music using 90% of Thomas Mosbo’s diagram of The Gates of Delirium, from his book “Yes-But What Does It Mean?” The excellence of Mr. Mosbo’s diagram inspired me to come up with the other 10%, thus forming a new diagram.<br /><br /><br /><br />&nbsp;<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><p align="center">***</p><p align="center"><span><strong>The Gates of Delirium by Yes</strong></span></p><p align="center"><span>The script to the audio CD (a voice-over diagram) by Mark Smith</span></p><p align="center"><span>Inspired deeply from Thomas Mosbo’s book</span></p><p align="center"><span>“Yes – But What Does It Mean?”</span></p><p align="center"><span></span>&nbsp;</p><p align="center"><em>Out of the ashes our spirits will rise again.</em><br /><br /></p><p align="center"><span>Introduction</span></p>&nbsp;The introduction sets the stage for the drama about to unfold. Theme A is then intoned by Howe’s guitar. Suddenly it is interrupted (Squire’s Bass) by the 1st third of Theme B.<br /><br />Howe quickly returns to Theme A. But Squire cut’s in again, adding the 2nd third of Theme B. &nbsp;<br /><br />Opening sounds are heard again, yet are embellished, followed by Howe’s restatement of Theme A. The complete B Theme (or the “Voice of Reason” theme) is then boldly stated. This important Theme will be heard later in the Development section of the song.&nbsp;<br /><br />A combination of both Themes A (Howe) and B (Anderson) is heard, on top of a portentous bass statement that will also be heard again in the Development.&nbsp;<br /><br />Howe then takes up a variation of the 2nd half of Theme B for the final segment of the Introduction, which ends with powerful and rhythmically descending notes.&nbsp;<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><p align="center">&nbsp;</p><p align="center"><span>Exposition</span></p><p align="center"><span></span>&nbsp;</p>Relaxing the musical tension slightly, thus starts the intro of the Exposition, Theme C - the song proper – sung by Jon Anderson. (Verse 1 “Stand and fight” &amp; 2 “Stand the marchers”)&nbsp;<br /><br />Howe plays a brief snatch of Theme D, which will also play an important role later in the Development section.&nbsp;<br /><br />Theme E “Choose and renounce” (similar to Theme C)&nbsp;<br /><br />Howe presents the transitional Theme F.&nbsp;<br /><br />Theme C expanded. (“Wars that shout”)&nbsp;<br /><br />Theme D is repeated.&nbsp;Theme E repeated. (“Words cause our banner”)&nbsp;<br /><br />Moraz on keyboards adds intensity to transitional Theme F.&nbsp;<br /><br />&nbsp;<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><p align="center"><span>Development</span></p><p align="center"><span></span>&nbsp;</p>&nbsp;Howe uses Theme D to transition seamlessly into the Development section. With great fervor, Howe expands on this same Theme.&nbsp;<br /><br />“The Voice of Reason” Theme B is heard, then, like a Jekyll and Hyde flip “The Voice of Delirium” Theme B is heard. (The same Theme using different lyrics).&nbsp;<br /><br />Howe uses Theme D again to transition into the completion of the Development section.&nbsp;<br /><br />Alternating between Theme’s D and A, and Squire accompanying with his own determined riff, Howe prepares for the Recapitulation section with his guitar becoming increasingly shrill and nerve wrenching.&nbsp;<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><p align="center"><span>Recapitulation</span></p><p align="center"><span></span>&nbsp;</p>&nbsp;A feverish <span>&nbsp;</span>Theme E “Devil’s Sermon.” (“The fist will run”) &nbsp;<br /><br />Howe leads the band with Theme D for the last time to complete the Development section and to segue into the Battle Sequence.&nbsp;<br /><br />&nbsp;<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><p align="center"><span>Battle</span><span> Sequence 1</span></p><p align="center"><span></span>&nbsp;</p>Galloping like a horse in the Apocalypse, the feverish Theme G is introduced by Squire’s bass.<br />Moraz’s keyboards adds to it with his Theme G(a).<br />The fever of delirium is darkened by Howe’s Themes G(b) &amp; G(c).&nbsp;<br /><br />Moraz’s intelligent, yet horrifying, Theme G(a) is repeated.<br />Howe continues the poison with Themes G(b) &amp; G(c) again, yet adding to it by pronouncing Theme G(d) that concludes with 4 beats. Moraz then intensifies it!&nbsp;<br /><br />The delirious fever increases with an <em>extremely powerful</em> restatement of Theme G. Moraz’s distressing Theme G(a) is heard again. Howe reaffirms the evil with Theme G(d), that concludes this time with 5 beats.&nbsp;<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><p align="center"><span>Battle</span><span> Sequence 2</span></p><p align="center"><span></span>&nbsp;</p>Without a breath, we dive into the heat of the bloodbath. <span>&nbsp;</span>The deadly sharp blade of Theme H is declared by Squire’s bass, a 3+4+4 rhythm.&nbsp;<br />The blade is sharpened by the jagged Theme I, a (2+3) + (2+4) + (3+3+3) rhythm.&nbsp;<br /><br />Like a gang of demons, Howe and Squire join forces by restating Theme H.&nbsp;<br /><br />The lust for blood increases as the jagged Theme I is repeated.&nbsp;<br /><br />The evil is now eerily beyond words as the Squire-and-Howe-gang unite to restate Theme H.&nbsp;<br /><br />The deliriously insane passion for blood is completely out of control by the restatement of Theme I.&nbsp;<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><p align="center"><span>Battle</span><span> Sequence 3</span></p><p align="center"><span></span>&nbsp;</p>The madness intensifies and concludes with Moraz’s return to the expanded Theme G(a).&nbsp;<br />The insane rage is completed by White’s bludgeoning of the enemy over and over and over again!&nbsp;<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><p align="center"><span>Demonic Victory Song</span></p>The victor gloats over his decimated adversary in delirious delight! Moraz screeches and howls out the Demonic Victory Song, a Theme all its own.The sinister laughter from Howe’s guitar, and the pulsating blasts from Squire’s bass, ride the wave of the power of the battle and transform it into a wickedly glorious triumphant revel!&nbsp;<br /><br />Then the music collapses with a last few shudders, as if falling asleep after gorging itself.&nbsp;<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />&nbsp;<br /><br /><br /><p align="center">***</p><p align="center">&nbsp;</p><p align="center"><span>Angelic Forgiveness Song</span></p><p align="center"><span></span>&nbsp;</p>&nbsp;The war is over. Our spirits are crushed. And the music has left us exhausted.&nbsp;<br /><br />Dreaming contentfully of victory, the demon then senses a presence. A kindly light breaks through in the demon’s dream. At first sickened by the lights kindness, eventually the demon yields to the depths of the lights sad beauty.&nbsp;<br /><br />As Forgiveness’s companion, Howe then tenderly introduces to us Theme J.&nbsp;<br /><br />The voice of the Angel echoes Theme J by affirming prayerfully “Soon, oh soon the light” and “Soon, oh soon the time”&nbsp;<br /><br />Theme K (“Long ago”), with the added beginning piece of the “Angelic Forgiveness Song.”&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /><br />Returning to the prayerful affirmation of Theme J. (“Soon, oh soon the light”)&nbsp;<br /><br />Howe tenderly echoes this Theme, then expanding with passionate modulations. &nbsp;<br /><br />Encapsulating the affirmative prayer is Jon Anderson’s Theme J “Soon, oh Soon the light”&nbsp;<br /><br />The loving conclusion to the “Angelic Forgiveness Song.”&nbsp;<br /><em>Like flowing water that fills the low places, forgiveness naturally brings love from the source where God resides, within each of us, and within the demon.</em>&nbsp;<br /><br />“Hymn of Compassion”&nbsp;<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><p align="center"><span>Finale</span></p>&nbsp;Out of the ashes our spirits <em>will</em> rise again.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><p align="center">###</p><p align="center">&nbsp;</p>&nbsp;&nbsp;(Personal Note: I chose the title “Angelic <em>Forgiveness</em> Song” as opposed to Thomas Mosbo’s “Angelic <em>Victory</em> Song,” for I feel that this piece is not so much about good triumphing OVER evil as it is good transcending evil, transforming beyond them both, and thus awakening from a nightmare.&nbsp;&nbsp;For the audio CD (free) email Mark Smith at <a target="_blank">dimension05@sbcglobal.net</a> . The music of “The Gates of Delirium” is on their 1974 album “Relayer.” &nbsp;&nbsp; </p> Re: Grateful for Yes http://wholeographicself.gaia.com Wholeogram Man tag:gaia.com,2008:Gaia-291463 Mon, 26 May 2008 18:49:07 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/yes_heaven/conversations/view/99972#291463 <p> &quot;the Onion tour&quot; Ah, for those who like onions. Beauty sure is in the eyes of the beholder!<br /><br />I myself have allowed myself to be swayed by other peoples opinions (onions:) sometimes in other arenas, but when it comes to Yes music, for me, there is just no doubt and never has been! I am very grateful for that! </p> Re: Grateful for Yes http://greywolf22.gaia.com Greywolf22 tag:gaia.com,2008:Gaia-291448 Mon, 26 May 2008 18:01:49 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/yes_heaven/conversations/view/99972#291448 <p> I would have loved to see the Union tour (although some people I know have called it the Onion tour - sour grapes or something, I think)&nbsp;Such great talent on the stage at&nbsp;the same time.<br /><br />The only Yes tours I&#39;ve seen were in the seventies&nbsp;and I barely&nbsp;remember the individual shows.&nbsp;Certain highlights stick out like seeing Rick Wakeman and the 3 giant dragon&#39;s&nbsp;with laser beam eyes but the rest is a blur. They are playing my hometown again this year so I may go back iand check them out if I have time.&nbsp; </p> Re: Grateful for Yes http://wholeographicself.gaia.com Wholeogram Man tag:gaia.com,2008:Gaia-291149 Sun, 25 May 2008 17:23:55 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/yes_heaven/conversations/view/99972#291149 <p> Welcome!<br /><br />Yep, the &quot;Union&quot; of Yes East and West. Usually in the world are the conflicts between east&#39;s and west&#39;s, etc, etc. So I highly applaud Yes for allowing an East and a West to blend and merge...and then (IMHO) successfully!<br /><br />My wife and I saw the Union tour. We were pretty close so we could feel Chris&#39;s bass! Wow! What a treat it was to hear with our very own ears what it sounds like to have the two Yes-camps on stage together...to hear the hardness and heavyness of Trevor along side&nbsp;the softness and lightness of Jon! </p> Re: Grateful for Yes http://greywolf22.gaia.com Greywolf22 tag:gaia.com,2008:Gaia-289371 Wed, 21 May 2008 01:53:57 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/yes_heaven/conversations/view/99972#289371 <p> Hello, I&#39;m brand new here at Gaia and I thought&nbsp;a good way to start would be to join a group&nbsp;about one of my favorite bands of all time.<br /><br />I agree that I am grateful for Yes&#39;s music as well because it has been such a huge force for positive energy in my life. I was a huge fan way back when but then lost interest around the YesWest period. Then I went through a very difficult time a few years back when I was despondent a large part of the time.<br /><br />One day, I was rummaging through a second hand CD store and happened to come across a CD from Yes called Union that I had never heard before. It was going for a dollar so I thought, &quot;what the heck.&quot; and grabbed it. What a revelation!!! A newer, more mature sounding Yes. (I later found out that purists hate it but so what - I still love Union - Trevor and Jon sound great together on this one.)<br /><br />Anyway, long story, short, I got right back into Yes again and now I&#39;m as big a fan as I ever was and I found that discovering new Yessongs that I&#39;d never heard, helped me over that bad time and gave me a better appreciation for the history of both the band and my own mispent youth.<br /><br />Love the band even with all their quirks,excesses and line-up changes. </p> chris' instructional video http://jackii.gaia.com jackii tag:gaia.com,2007:Gaia-182287 Tue, 04 Sep 2007 23:58:04 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/yes_heaven/conversations/view/182287 <p> well actually it&#39;s just excerpts of chris playing, without the instructional dialog in between,&nbsp;from&nbsp;big generator times.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI3Ns1JTiBo&amp;mode=related&amp;search= </p> Re: Roundabout # C A M E L O T tag:gaia.com,2007:Gaia-182057 Tue, 04 Sep 2007 11:03:38 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/yes_heaven/conversations/view/175999#182057 <p> You got a road band? *envy*<br /><br />I liked the one that &quot;Anderson Bruford Wakeman &amp; Howe&quot; did on their video; when I had a computer I dloaded the clip from dalnet. Great and very inspired concert it was, overall, too.<br /> </p> Re: Roundabout http://wholeographicself.gaia.com Wholeogram Man tag:gaia.com,2007:Gaia-176891 Tue, 21 Aug 2007 00:56:22 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/yes_heaven/conversations/view/175999#176891 <p> It sure is, Johann. I LOVE that song!<br /><br />Even though I grew up with Bill, and learned from him, and have a lot of respect for what he did in the middle, I like both versions. BUT, leaning a little toward Bill on this one.<br /><br />I got my road band to do Roundabout (they did it very wel!) and I did Bill&#39;s part pretty much to a T. The bass player in that band wasn&#39;t the greatest, so Chris&#39;s excellent gallop wasn&#39;t happenin.&#39; Except for that it sounded pretty fair.<br /><br />Mark </p> Roundabout # C A M E L O T tag:gaia.com,2007:Gaia-175999 Sat, 18 Aug 2007 11:31:59 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/yes_heaven/conversations/view/175999 <p> Roundabout is one of those songs that stays.<br />Do you wake up every day and put on &quot;Roundabout&quot; to start your day?<br /><br />I do.<br /><br />Which one do you like the most? When Yes had Bill Bruford doin the poly-rhythmic Afro beats in the mid of Roundabout, or Alan White&#39;s more rocked out version? I notice they take out that section these days.......<br /> </p> Re: BBC's "Sounding Out" featuring '72 Yes http://wholeographicself.gaia.com Wholeogram Man tag:gaia.com,2007:Gaia-158571 Sun, 01 Jul 2007 15:47:28 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/yes_heaven/conversations/view/155169#158571 <p> <p>Yes, it is&nbsp;VERY satisfying indeed!</p> </p> Re: BBC's "Sounding Out" featuring '72 Yes http://jackii.gaia.com jackii tag:gaia.com,2007:Gaia-157334 Thu, 28 Jun 2007 05:44:26 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/yes_heaven/conversations/view/155169#157334 <p> these are very nice quality, and i&#39;m amazed at all the yes stuff on utube.&nbsp; <br /><br />it makes up for my yes-jonesing for new material.&nbsp; </p> BBC's "Sounding Out" featuring '72 Yes http://wholeographicself.gaia.com Wholeogram Man tag:gaia.com,2007:Gaia-155169 Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:41:24 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/yes_heaven/conversations/view/155169 <p> My brother just found these rare Yes clips from 1972, BBC&#39;s &quot;Sounding Out.&quot;<br /><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=hUGwrYWV-uA">http://youtube.com/watch?v=hUGwrYWV-uA</a> This is 1 of 4. <br /><br />This is footage&nbsp;of the beginning of their Classic period (I&#39;d say). They are moving up fast, and is right before Close to the Edge.<br /><br />They are all very excited and it shows. </p> Looking Around http://wholeographicself.gaia.com Wholeogram Man tag:gaia.com,2007:Gaia-153463 Sat, 16 Jun 2007 20:40:48 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/yes_heaven/conversations/view/153463 <p> <p>I just heard a version of &quot;Looking Around&quot; recorded at the BBC studios when Yes were on the Dave Symonds Show (August 4, 1969). Great! I heard it on my brother Dan&#39;s very good webpage! <a href="http://drs1958.zaadz.com/">http://drs1958.zaadz.com/</a>&nbsp; He has it set up to either stream&nbsp;or download.<br /><br />(Thanks Dan! Good job!)</p> </p> Re: it's deeper than you think.... http://wholeographicself.gaia.com Wholeogram Man tag:gaia.com,2007:Gaia-150856 Fri, 08 Jun 2007 14:35:03 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/yes_heaven/conversations/view/147648#150856 <p> This has always been one of my favorite Yes/Zaadz languages -<br /><br />&quot;It&#39;s the beginning of a new love inside<br />You&#39;ve got the way to make it all happen<br />Set it spinning turning roundabout<br />Create a new dimension<br />When we are winning we can stop and shout<br />Making love towards perfection&quot;<br /><br />Great words,&nbsp;yet only words.&nbsp; But when I am immersed in this music, it makes it more real to me. It feeds me! </p> Re: it's deeper than you think.... http://jackii.gaia.com jackii tag:gaia.com,2007:Gaia-150245 Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:25:05 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/yes_heaven/conversations/view/147648#150245 <p> <p><em>The quality is within, not without. Isn&#39;t it?<br /><br /></em>flattery will get you only so far.&nbsp; lol<br /><br /><em>go closer, hold the land, before we&#39;re no more than grains of sand,<br />next to your deeper fears, we stand surrounded by a million years<br /></em><br />now that&#39;s deep!&nbsp; yes has been speaking the language of zaadz for a long long time.<br /><br />gotta go!&nbsp; the men&#39;s group is tonight.<br /><br />much love and sucking (only the best kind)&nbsp;to you all,<br /><br />jack</p> </p> Re: it's deeper than you think.... http://wholeographicself.gaia.com Wholeogram Man tag:gaia.com,2007:Gaia-150222 Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:33:18 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/yes_heaven/conversations/view/147648#150222 <p> <p>Dugh! I see Jack. But in actuality, no pun was intended. Yep, double meaning on the &quot;not being heard again.&quot;</p><p><br /><em>&quot; it&#39;s not the greatest quality, but my mind is able to adjust to any quality&quot;</em> You sound like a musician friend of mine who was an incredible jazz bass player. Went to his house one day and he had a cheep little momo record player in which he learned and listened to the greats. He wasn&#39;t so hung up on quality either. The quality is within, not without. Isn&#39;t it?</p><p><br />I still get excited when a I hear Roundabout on the radio. Even though it is<strong> </strong>one<strong> of the </strong>Yes songs that DJs choose to play the most (next to maybe Owner), it is SO well done! It is a deserving piece of craftsmanship! I&#39;ve always loved Squire&#39;s galloping bass line! I&#39;ve never grown tired of it.</p> </p> Re: it's deeper than you think.... http://jackii.gaia.com jackii tag:gaia.com,2007:Gaia-150138 Wed, 06 Jun 2007 06:10:11 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/yes_heaven/conversations/view/147648#150138 <p> of course you are humorously overstating bill&#39;s not being heard again.&nbsp; i was really glad he stuck to his guns, doing the king crimson and earthworks time.<br /><br />i&#39;ve had fragile in the car cd player for about a week now, thanks to this thread.&nbsp; fragile was one album that i didn&#39;t hear alot of.&nbsp; i loved the yes album and close to the edge, everyone else had fragile, so i couldn&#39;t justify buying it.&nbsp; a couple of years ago i was telling some yes fan i met at yestalk.org that i still never got fragile in my collection and so he sent me a copy.&nbsp; it&#39;s not the greatest quality, but my mind is able to adjust to any quality.&nbsp; maybe if i start to work again, i&#39;ll allow myself to purchase the newer enhanced versions.<br /><br />deeper than&nbsp;i think?&nbsp; no, it&#39;s only as deep as i think, but that&#39;s very deep; deep as infinity.<br /> </p> Re: it's deeper than you think.... http://wholeographicself.gaia.com Wholeogram Man tag:gaia.com,2007:Gaia-149188 Sun, 03 Jun 2007 16:29:42 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/yes_heaven/conversations/view/147648#149188 <p> <p>Sorry &#39;bout that! iwbagd - &quot;It Will Be A Good Day.&quot;<br /><br />When I clicked the link it took me to &quot;Songs,&quot; and the 9th one down the list is &quot;South Side of the Sky on YouTube.&quot; Then the link is in my first post there.</p><br /><p>Yeah, I listened to Journey a long time ago. HmmHmm. Those were the days alright! %^)!</p><br /><p>That Bill lick you&#39;re talking about - as a former drummer it is&nbsp;one pattern that he used in many different ways on Fragile. It&#39;s always been one of my personal favorites! Bill&#39;s style is like a river - he is always moving, always changing, never static. So, he was really into that pattern on Fragile, and like Bill, it was never heard again (that I noticed).<br /><br />That said, yeah it&#39;s great isn&#39;t it? How he does it is so cool!</p> </p>