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   Meenakshi : Connection

Inspiring thoughts about community

Meenakshi said Dec 1, 2008, 5:43 AM:

 

On the road yesterday, I was having some deeep thoughts about community in general [being with family can do that to you!] and Gaia community as well; and planned to start a thread in this board..

The rain gods are bringing rain outdoors and power surges that have already caused the computer to re-boot once; so let's hope this goes smoothly!  Firefox saved the  post I was writing, so, with the blessings of rain, fire and fox, I start this thread.


Please post any inspiring thoughts you have, of your words or quotes from other sources,  about:

  • what community is
  • the role of individual in community
  • enhancing community experience
  • what community experience does for individuals

   Meenakshi : Connection

Re: Inspiring thoughts about community- social/anti-social

Meenakshi said Dec 1, 2008, 7:10 AM:

 
  ~Kes : Communicator  

reposted from: please Reply to Post for this sub-thread.

Re: Comings and Goings on Gaia-clean break, burning bridges
~Kes said 21 minutes ago:

 

Gaia is a Social Network

An elephant to my understanding is an anti-social behavior.

The social personality naturally operates on the basis of the greatest good.  The social personality wants to survive and wants others to survive, whereas the antisocial personality really and covertly wants others to succumb.  Basically, the social personality wants others to be happy and do well, whereas the antisocial personality is very clever in making others do very badly indeed.

A basic clue to the social personality is not really his successes but his motivations. The social personality when successful is often a target for the antisocial and by this reason he may fail. But his intentions included others in his success, whereas the antisocial only appreciate the doom of others.

Unless we can detect the social personality and hold him safe from undue restraint and detect also the antisocial and restrain him, our society will go on suffering from insanity, criminality and war, and man and civilization will not endure.

Do not smash the social personality-and do not fail to render powerless the antisocial in their efforts to harm the rest of us. 

Just because a man rises above his fellows or takes an important part does not make him an antisocial personality. Just because a man can control or dominate others does not make him an antisocial personality.

It is his motives in doing so and the consequences of his acts which distinguish the antisocial from the social.

Unless we realize and apply the true characteristics of the two types of personality, we will continue to live in a quandary of who our enemies are and, in doing so, victimize our friends.

All men have committed acts of violence or omission for which they could be censured. In all mankind there is not one single perfect human being.

But there are those who try to do right and those who specialize in wrong and upon these facts and characteristics you can know them.

Social personalities are motivated by the desire to help others and do the greatest good for the greatest number. The bulk of humanity is composed of social personalities.

Only about 20% of a race are the effect of elephant type characteristics of behavior.  They cause trouble for the remaining 80% out of proportion to their number, and only 2-1/2% in the 20% are the real trouble makers so, that is only about 1 out of 40 to watch out for in any group.  Gaia doesn't really have this problem as when trouble arises, it seems that it is being confronted immediately and the person causing trouble fixes right away and doesn't repeat the behavior.  I hope this is the case.

I asked one of the teens on Gaia:  What about us that are keeping this place going strong and give amazing insights and viewpoints on life?

and the teen wrote:  'ABSOLUTELY! we're the ones chuggin along daily dealing with these silly people. 

BE THE CHANGE, not interupt the change.

It's OK to spot the elephant in the room if it is stopping 

expansion toward being a survival social network.'

Threatening to leave is not a solution…just a restimulator for attention and not ok.

~k

   Meenakshi : Connection

Re: Inspiring thoughts about community- social/anti-social

Meenakshi said Dec 1, 2008, 7:42 AM:

 

Thank you for these very important ideas, ~KES.

What leaps out at me from this; is that to know if some behavior is social or anti-social, one has to know intent.

Brings to mind a question:

How can we deduce the intent of another person from his writing online?



And a sub-question;
Is each of us inherently social or anti-social; or is it a particular post or blog of ours that may be social, anti-social or a-social?

I'd love members' thoughts on these.

  ~KES : Communicator

Re: Inspiring thoughts about community- social/anti-social

~KES said Dec 1, 2008, 7:48 AM:

 

One can't just label some one social or anti social/a-socialwithout giving the true test that.

With writing and not actually hearing the sound of someone's voice, you have to ask them to clarify intentions if it is not clear from reading.

I will get back with the tools for this.  One thing I need to say here about ethics – which is a personal thing.  If someone is posting things and causing upsets with more than one person and they have been informed by management and others directly, that individual has been blessed and given a chance to then be ethical.  How lucky for those that have experienced this to then see that Man is basically good and can change.
The Cause of Suppression

Why are some people ill more often than others? Why are some accident-prone? And is there a reason others live their lives on an emotional seesaw, doing well one day and badly the next?


There is an explanation, and it has nothing to do with the gods, fate or the position of the stars. In fact, the actual reason behind these phenomena-and their resolution-has been explained.
The Antisocial Personality

There are certain characteristics and mental attitudes which cause about 20 percent of a race to oppose violently any betterment activity or group.

Such people are known to have antisocial tendencies.

When the legal or political structure of a country becomes such as to favor such personalities in positions of trust, then all the civilizing organizations of the country become suppressed and a barbarism of criminality and economic duress ensues.

Crime and criminal acts are perpetrated by antisocial personalities. Inmates of institutions commonly trace their state back to contact with such personalities.

Thus, in the fields of government, police activities and mental health, to name a few, we see that it is important to be able to detect and isolate this personality type so as to protect society and individuals from the destructive consequences attendant upon letting such have free rein to injure others.

As they only comprise 20 percent of the population and as only 2 1/2 percent are truly dangerous, we see that with a very small amount of effort we could considerably better the state of society.

Well-known, even stellar, examples of such a personality are, of course, Napoleon and Hitler. and other famous criminals were well-known examples of the antisocial personality. But with such a cast of characters in history we neglect the less stellar examples and do not perceive that such personalities exist in current life, very common, often undetected.

When we trace the cause of a failing business, we will inevitably discover somewhere in its ranks the antisocial personality hard at work.

In families which are breaking up, we commonly find one or the other of the persons involved to have such a personality.

Where life has become rough and is failing, a careful review of the area by a trained observer will detect one or more such personalities at work.

As there are 80 percent of us trying to get along and only 20 percent trying to prevent us, our lives would be much easier to live were we well informed as to the exact manifestations of such a personality. Thus, we could detect it and save ourselves much failure and heartbreak.

It is important then to examine and list the attributes of the antisocial personality. Influencing as it does the daily lives of so many, it well behooves decent people to become better informed on this subject.  (learn more 


The Social Personality

Man in his anxieties is prone to witch hunts.  All one has to do is designate “people wearing black caps” as the villains and one can start a slaughter of people in black caps.

This characteristic makes it very easy for the antisocial personality to bring about a chaotic or dangerous environment.  Man is not naturally brave or calm in his human state. And he is not necessarily villainous.

Even the antisocial personality, in his warped way, is quite certain that he is acting for the best and commonly sees himself as the only good person around, doing all for the good of everyone-the only flaw in his reasoning being that if one kills everyone else, none are left to be protected from the imagined evils. His conduct in his environment and toward his fellows is the only method of detecting either the antisocial or the social personalities. Their motives for self are similar-self-preservation and survival. They simply go about achieving these in different ways.

Thus, as man is naturally neither calm nor brave, anyone to some degree tends to be alert to dangerous persons and, hence, witch hunts can begin.

It is therefore even more important to identify the social personality than the antisocial personality. One then avoids shooting the innocent out of mere prejudice or dislike or because of some momentary misconduct.

The social personality can be defined most easily by comparison with his opposite, the antisocial personality.

This differentiation is easily done and no test should ever be constructed which isolates only the antisocial. On the same test must appear the upper as well as lower ranges of man’s actions.

A test that declares only antisocial personalities without also being able to identify the social personality would be itself a suppressive test. 

As the society runs, prospers and lives solely through the efforts of social personalities, one must know them as they, not the antisocial, are the worthwhile people. These are the people who must have rights and freedom. Attention is given to the antisocial solely to protect and assist the social personalities in the society.

All majority rules, civilizing intentions and even the human race will fail unless one can identify and thwart the antisocial personalities and help and forward the social personalities in the society. For the very word “society” implies social conduct and without it there is no society at all, only a barbarism with all men, good or bad, at risk.

The frailty of showing how the harmful people can be known is that these then apply the characteristics to decent people to get them hunted down and eradicated.

The swan song of every great civilization is the tune played by arrows, axes or bullets used by the antisocial to slay the last decent men.

Government is only dangerous when it can be employed by and for antisocial personalities. The end result is the eradication of all social personalities and the resultant collapse of Egypt, Babylon, Rome, Russia or the West.

You will note in the characteristics of the antisocial personality that intelligence is not a clue to the antisocial. They are bright or stupid or average. Thus, those who are extremely intelligent can rise to considerable, even head-of-state heights.

Importance and ability or wish to rise above others are likewise not indexes to the antisocial. When they do become important or rise, they are, however, rather visible by the broad consequences of their acts. But they are as likely to be unimportant people or hold very lowly stations and wish for nothing better.

Thus, it is the twelve given characteristics alone which identify the antisocial personality. And these same twelve reversed are the sole criteria of the social personality if one wishes to be truthful about them.

The identification or labeling of an antisocial personality cannot be done honestly and accurately unless one also, in the same examination of the person, reviews the positive side of his life. All persons under stress can react with momentary flashes of antisocial conduct. This does not make them antisocial personalities. The true antisocial person has a majority of antisocial characteristics. The social personality has a majority of social characteristics.

Thus, one must examine the good with the bad before one can truly label the antisocial or the social.

In reviewing such matters, very broad testimony and evidence are best. One or two isolated instances determine nothing. One should search all twelve social and all twelve antisocial characteristics and decide on the basis of actual evidence, not opinion. 

Pg419_3
  Phoenix : Reborn and Complete

Re: Inspiring thoughts about community- social/anti-social

Phoenix said Dec 1, 2008, 8:14 AM:

 

I am following this thread with deep interest, and am looking forward to the insight you will bring, Kathy. As I am dealing currently with someone who shows signs of anti-social behavior in my further extended family, I am largely interested in how to deal effectively with a such a personality outside of a largely positive social network such as Gaia. The effect that her behavior has on people I care about, is upsetting, so I would love to share your tools with them.
At the same time, you are absolutly correct, that ones intention is harder to see in the writings here on Gaia, or any other blog or forums as anti-social behavior is not always blunt and direct, but manipulative and discreet ( at least that is my experience).


Thanks for this thread!


Blessed Be


Claudia

   Meenakshi : Connection

Re: Inspiring thoughts about community-chiseled by others

Meenakshi said Jan 11, 12:26 PM:

 

Interactions in any community can remind us of these thoughts:


CHISELED BY OTHERS

…you are like the stone that must be chiseled and fashioned before
being set in the building…Some will chisel you with words, telling you
what you would rather not hear; others by deed, doing against you what
you would rather not endure; others by their temperament, being in
their person and in their actions a bother and annoyance to you; and
others by their thought, neither esteeming nor feeling love for you.
You ought to suffer these mortification and annoyances with inner
patience, being silent for love of God and understanding that you did
not enter the religious life for any other reason than for others to
work you in this way, and so you become worthy of heaven.
(St. John of the Cross)

The day you make up your mind to smile, you will see that everything
seems to conspire to try to make you cry! That is life. The day you
make up your mind to be patient and forgiving, it will seem that
others suddenly become harder to get along with. That is life. We
are often crucified by others, but their meanness should not affect
our resolutions to be kind. Let others pursue their way; you be
bigger and adhere to your way.
(Paramahansa Yogananda, `Journey to Self-Realization' )

Thus the wise man, indifferent to himself, is the greatest among them,
and taking no care for himself, he is nevertheless preserved. By
being the most unselfish he is the most secure of all.
(Lao-tse, ` The Adepts in the Eastern Esoteric Tradition')
   Meenakshi : Connection

Re: Inspiring thoughts about community- expectations

Meenakshi said Jan 11, 12:56 PM:

 

This would help if we find we are upset with others in online or offline communities:

The Sage therefore is occupied only with that which is without prejudice.
He teaches without verbosity, he acts without effort; he produces without
possessing, he acts without regard to the fruit of action; he brings his
work to perfection without assuming credit; and claiming nothing as his
own, he cannot at any time be said to lose.
(Lao-tse, `The Adepts in the Eastern Esoteric Tradition')

I do not expect anything from others, so their
actions cannot be in opposition to wishes of mine.
(Swami Sri Yukteswar, in `Autobiography of a Yogi')

People are unreasonable, illogical, and self-centered,
LOVE THEM ANYWAY
If you do good, people will accuse you of
Selfish, ulterior motives,
DO GOOD ANYWAY
If you are successful,
You will win false friends and true enemies,
SUCCEED ANYWAY
The good you do will be forgotten tomorrow,
DO GOOD ANYWAY
Honesty and frankness make you vulnerable,
BE HONEST AND FRANK ANYWAY
What you spent years building may be
Destroyed overnight
BUILD ANYWAY
People really need help
But may attack you if you help them,
HELP PEOPLE ANYWAY
Give the world the best you have
And you'll get kicked in the teeth
GIVE THE WORLD THE BEST YOU'VE GOT ANYWAY.

(from a sign on the wall of Shishu Bhavan, the children's home in
Calcutta, `Mother Teresa, A Simple Path')

   Meenakshi : Connection

Re: Inspiring thoughts about community- humankind knows

Meenakshi said Jan 13, 8:28 PM:

 

Kathy, Gaian extraordinaire, and a mod on this pod; has brought to mind the larger community of groups and organizations that are showcasing the transformation on earth. 

EYE OPENING DATA - humankind knows…

Posted on Jan 13th, 2009 by ~KES : Communicator ~KES

  C.G. : Sacred Vow

Re: Inspiring thoughts about community- humankind knows

C.G. said Jan 14, 2:41 AM:

 

….very much worth the visit and the time to watch the video. This is a remarkable event unfolding….
Thank you, Kathy!!!

   Meenakshi : Connection

Re: Inspiring thoughts about community

Meenakshi said Jan 25, 11:42 AM:

 

I have amazing news for you. Man is not alone on this planet. He is part of a community, upon which he depends absolutely.

Daniel Quinn

Source: Ishmael: An Adventure of the Mind and Spirit, Page: 101

Contributed by: David Pearson

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